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er, no mention of Tony Blair after today?.....and at least the others mentioned on here are harmless rather than war criminals. Still, he's Labour isn't he so moral high ground by default for all the Labour voters after the invasion of Iraq. Which is really gobsmakingly hypocritical when you read so much "how people can vote 'Con-dem" is beyond me" shite on social media and the other suspects.....

I don't think you'll find many Tony Blair fans who'd disagree with you on here. I certainly never voted for the cunt and I marched against the invasion.


(know you weren't aiming your comments at me, but I think a lot of people will say similar, and a lot of those that did vote for him probably wouldn't have if they'd known the path he'd take us down)




I haven't actually read any news today (hungover) but I will have a look now.

Before I was old enough to vote I was vaguely involved with some International Socialists and Trotskyist types. They put me right off the left-leaning politics- everything they went on about entailed how to prise money away from other people- and into their own pockets- the hypocrisy and shite was palpable
They all have the same basic aims and since some Labour seats were lost when it was discovered that the candidates were involved in the Militant tendency they are all astute enough not to get themselves involved with the far left overtly, but that doesn't mean that they do not hold those views.

Even if they all did, it's not like they could take the country down a socialist distribution of wealth road if they were in government.


But they could tax the richest a bit more and that would be the right thing to do in my opinion. Certainly they wouldn't lower their tax which is basically just taking the piss out of the rest of us (including most right leaning voters).

El Pibe Wrote:

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> uncleglen was just showing us how to talk absolute

> shite. selfelss my friend ;)



Now EP, you know there's a difference between absolute shite and absolute bollix (as your new neighbours would probably call it). That is quite another trehad.

"er, no mention of Tony Blair after today?.....and at least the others mentioned on here are harmless rather than war criminals."


sort of what people were taking the thread for on here I thought - light hearted bants and that...


but as you mention it, yeah he's stinking the place up again. but wait what's this? Surely you aren't going to turn this into another one of your..


"Still, he's Labour isn't he so moral high ground by default for all the Labour voters after the invasion of Iraq. Which is really gobsmakingly hypocritical when you read so much "how people can vote 'Con-dem" is beyond me" shite on social media and the other suspects....."


straw-man, net-trawl rants are you?.. .oh. i see



Blair gets no love on here does he?


As for "shite social media"... on my feed: lefties appear to be blaming him for 1500 years of strife in that region, whilst a number of middle-ground or right-wingers are saying hang on he has a point, regardless of the past we nee dto do something here and now


Even your bete noirs ("other suspects?") - like Owen Jones are having a pop at him


So, who exactly are you having a pop at on here?


Sir, I put it to you, that on the evening of Sunday 15th June 2014 it was you talking absolute shite..

Blair is now roundly loathed by all the metro liberal types who fell for him in the first place, and all the proper left wingers for getting them into power and then refusing to do a hard left turn. I think right wingers only say he has a point to wind up lefties. Whether he's talking shite or not is almost beside the point - as far as I can see, nobody is listening.


Going back to the football, it's been shocking to find that often Rio Ferdinand is talking the most sense. Both BBC and ITV pundits have been bland/boring/obvious/cretinous, with occasional outbreaks of cringeworthy Smashie and Nicey style blokery. Shite is too polite a word for it.

I was a couple of months off of my 19th birthday when he came to power in 1997. I didn't vote for him because


1. He had a smile that made me want to slap him.

2. He tried to buddy up with Oasis, and I was a blur kinda guy.



Frankly I feel as though I was probably better off making my political decisions based on that kind of criteria.

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