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Not that I think the 'Godfathers' need defending (I like that term...) but you're being a bit cheeky, microbite. You re-start a thread that had gone quiet almost a week ago with 'I stand at a loss as to how so many people can get on my case about my thoughts and feelings' - which is pretty much asking for responses from prior posters, isn't it? - and then accuse people of ganging up on you when they reply. Come on.


I'm not attacking you personally, and I really share your horror and sadness about this situation, so I hope you won't take offence, as none is intended.

I read the small biter's last post as being a little bit "I might have blown off a lot of steam but as I don't seem to be winning this argument how about we all get along? Here for starters I'll crack a small joke"


or am I being hopelessly naive?

  • 2 weeks later...

Looks like the mob who read (and even more scarily, listen to) The Sun will be feeling that some justice has been done.


Love the fact they are calling it a great victory for them, having called for sackings. They say that people have been "removed from posts". They fail to mention that they are suspended on full pay. HA!!!!


What really annoyed me yesterday was that this report was carried out by Ofsted! They can't even give an accurate report on a school, let alone childrens services! Why the hell were CSCI (Commission for social care inspection) not involved? They are FAR from perfect either, but at least they understand the bloody field they were inspecting!


Absolute load of trash just to keep the blood hounds quiet!


Interestingly, the new people they are putting in will have to report monthly to the secretary of state. Does this mean that if another child is killed in a flat somewhere in the middle of the night by some nasty piece of work, the secretary of state will be called upon to resign? Actually, I shouldn't even joke, as nothing would surprise me in this country. I am surprised we're not bringing back hanging.

  • 1 month later...

Heard on the news yesterday that since this case, the applications to remove children from their parents in to care haveincreaced by a massive amount to approx 600 a month, because Social Workers are now basically sh!tting themselves, and now feel that this is the safest (for them) course of action... Thus splitting families, and stretching resouces.


Well done UK press, give yourselves a pat on the back!


Fecking muppets!

  • 5 months later...

Sorry to drag this old thread up.


Just heard on the news that Ofsted are sticking the knife back in to Haringey council. This makes me angry in 3 seperate ways.


1. What the f**k do Ofsted know about anything?!?!?!?!?!?

2. The government are the reason councils struggle like they do, and are basically as much to blame for the failings IMO.

3. The constant press coverage of this case is awful, and who the hell wants to go and take a job in Haringey now!


I'm not saying Haringey don't deserve a bit of a kick in the arse, but the way this entire case has been handled and reported is a really sad reflection on this country, and the tabloid needs of the masses!

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