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Alan Medic Wrote:

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> Good to see no one is blaming the manager yet.



True, but then I would have thought the blame was obvious. When you have a team that lacks world class players you need strategy and guile and England seemed short in both - that was Hodgson's responsibility. Too vague and undisciplined at the back and too sloppy and wayward at the front - like they were making it up as they went along.


Also the team selection to start. Not being able to see the malaise Gerrard suffered from in an England shirt is a management error and letting him give that depressing team 'rally' was a massive mistake - also Lallana and Lambert and Barkley should have played from the start.


This team reflects Hodgson perfectly and acheived as much as it is able to under him.

Alan Medic Wrote:

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> Anyone would think England was actually out of the

> WC already. An Italy win tonight will make the

> following round very interesting and not at all

> hopeless.


Quite right - let's consider the plus points...


1. We can all go back to enjoying the football instead of fretting about England's prospects.

2. Costa Rica v Italy should be a good game.

3. Spain were out before England.

4. Lampard never played.

I'm in agreement with maxxi and Med's


And I even think that this young team have the makings of something good and different for English football. I'd got utterly fed up with the old guard and their utterly bloated celibrity HELLO magazine status. Once Gerrard gets put out to graze in the coming year/s we'll be on our way to something interesting again


It's only my personal view, but i've enjoyed some of the football we've played so far


Onward, whatever happens

It's not over yet! Here's how England can still qualify for the knock out stages. Taken from the Metro.


Step one

Italy need to beat Costa Rica in their 5pm kick-off tonight (this should happen).


Step two

England need to beat Costa Rica (hopefully by a few goals) on Tuesday, 5pm kick-off.


Step three

Italy then need to beat Uruguay (again, by a few goals) also on Tuesday, 5pm kick-off.


This means?

Italy will win Group D, going through automatically, while England, Costa Rica and Uruguay will all have three points, after winning one game each.


BUT ? we?ll hopefully squeeze through in second place, thanks to the goal difference rule.


And then ON TO WIN THE WORLD CUP. Probably.


Louisa.

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> er, not if Costa Rica beat England AM -Urugay need

> to play for a win



This was based on England beating Costa Rica.


The way things are going, looks like my flag will be coming down tonight :(

Louisa Wrote:

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> It's not over yet! Here's how England can still

> qualify for the knock out stages. Taken from the

> Metro.

>

> Step one

> Italy need to beat Costa Rica in their 5pm

> kick-off tonight (this should happen).

>

Not at half time it isn't. You may have to forget steps two and three though if Italy aren't careful they could go out themselves.

MrBen Wrote:

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> The problem is the Italians in their last game.

> Their style in that scenario is to field their B

> team and generally they won't be arsed.


That might depend on them caring if they win the group or not and who they might prefer to play.

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