A-Z list celebrities that drive you mad

[VeryBerryCherry]

I walked into the the newagents today to find the magazine rack covered wall-to-wall with Cheryl Cole.

Now this woman drives me mad.

How can anyone admire a woman who (allegedly) racially attacked a woman, (allegedly) slept with most of Newcastle United and is famous for what? Singing a little bit and wearing clothes. Where is there anything to admire in that?

There are more that I can mention:

Kate Moss

Peaches Geldof

With more young girls knowing the WAGS than any female MPs and their life ambition to be a model or a footballers wife, are there any people in the media that you think set a really bad role model?

[Annasfield]

I think that Cheryl Cole is stunning.

That said, her music is shite. I couldn't comment on anything else as I don't watch/read anything with her in.

[DaveR]

All of them. A list - Z list. Anybody who would be happy to be described as a 'celebrity' i.e. no defining achievement. Ignore them - if we all did they would disappear and we could get on with more important things. (Not important as in weighty, serious, just important as in things that concern us, our friends and families as opposed to things concerning talentless attention-seeking inadequates).

[Keef]

To be fair to Kate Moss (and I am no fan) she is pretty much A List I would have thought. Totally with you on Peaches Geldof!

As for Cheryl Cole, I know what you're saying, but at least she is in a group. I can't stand the people that are "famous" for being in Big Brother or something similar.

I know some may disagree with this, but I can't stand Janet Street Porter!!! She obviously has some brains, but she gets her annoying self on every celebrity reality thing she can, and she goes on Question Time, and talks over everyone like she's an expert on everything, and she'll then come out with something rude, or risque before looking to the audience for a cheap laugh, which she seems to think means shes won the point. Grrr!!!! (6)

[SeanMacGabhann]

I agree with pretty much every word Keef just said - up to and including JSP

but the clue is in the phrase Z list - by definition they are going to be all as bad as each other

[CamberwellOz]

Jade Goody. It irritates me that someone so stupid could be in so many magazines.

[mockney piers]

"To be fair to Kate Moss (and I am no fan) she is pretty much A List"

I know what you're saying but I'm totally with DaveR on this. Celebrity for its own sake is ultimately worthless.

She wears clothes, has her photo taken and encourages girls to snort coke in order to be borderline anorexic, well worth every penny of her millions, well done girl.

It does all devalue genuine achievement.

Katie Price is my nomination. I guess a minor tip of the hat for having survived and capitalised on on her start in a pretty ugly industry, but to constantly describe herself as an authoress and business woman? Pah.

[AcedOut]

What Keef said.

[mockney piers]

If you build it they will come.

The ones I really hate are those that keep buying OK, Hello and gawd knows what else, TV Quick?

It has once appeared in my house, I ritually burned it!

[RosieH]

Not to play devil's advocate, but I wouldn't say that Cheryl Cole was famous for "singing a little bit" - she's one fifth of Girls Aloud - a phenomenally successful pop group who've received critical acclaim as well as massive sales. I think there's something to admire there if pop's your thing.

Equally, with Keef on the Kate Moss thing. She might be a coke-addled serial rock f*cker and a terrible role model for women, but she's also an iconic figure in popular culture and has been at the top of the modelling game for quite some time.

But I wonder, is it really their responsibility to set themselves up as a role model? Aren't z-listers too just people living their lives and gaining fame and fortune however they can? I might find it dispiriting, but unless they expressly set out to do otherwise, I don't think it's anyone's responsibility to act as a role model for the nation.

[mockney piers]

Ooh and while I'm ranting .... ALEX EFFING JAMES!!!!!!

Yeah, he did learn an instrument and write tunes, and did well out of it, well done.

But does he have to appear on even more programmes than JSP? Writes a column for every publication in this country, be a celeb panelist as well as reality tv entrant, UN AMBASSADOR?!?!? I mean Question Time, seriously how is some floppy hair and the odd snort of derision actually going to grant me any extra insight into today's politics.

I don't suppose I can lay the blame of Auntie Beeb's dumbing down entirely at his door, let's just call him the poster child for that generation.

*c-c-c-c-c-c-cc--allllllllmmm d-d-d-d-d-oooooowwwwnn*

[mockney piers]

Not to play devil's advocate, but I wouldn't say that Cheryl Cole was famous for "singing a little bit" - she's one fifth of Girls Aloud - a phenomenally successful pop group who've received critical acclaim as well as massive sales. I think there's something to admire there if pop's your thing.

She won a competition because she can indeed sing a little bit.

There endeth the contribution. They don't write the songs, they're not behind their marketing, and the ones really laughing are of course the record execs behind them. They look pretty on a video and sometimes tour/tour the publicity circuit.

I'm sure it is really hard work, but then who out there doesn't work hard (apart from me today).

As for the role model, you can't have your cake and eat it. You can't be iconic and NOT a role model. On the one hand decrying press intrusion on your privacy to behave badly and the awful burden of being a role model; on the other bleating on about every celebrity cause de jour and wandering off to Darfuristan with the UN to highlight some plight or other.

[Ladygooner]

Is he the one who makes cheese now?

[mockney piers]

YESSSSS GODDAMMIT

[RosieH]

mockney piers Wrote:

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> "To be fair to Kate Moss (and I am no fan) she is

> pretty much A List"

>

> I know what you're saying but I'm totally with

> DaveR on this. Celebrity for its own sake is

> ultimately worthless.

> She wears clothes, has her photo taken and

> encourages girls to snort coke in order to be

> borderline anorexic, well worth every penny of her

> millions, well done girl.

>

Actually, I would say well done girl. Let's face it, she was never going to win a Nobel prize, she's not done badly for a thicko.

While I don't buy Hello and Heat and the rest of them, and am bored witless by most reality tv (I do like Strictly though) I can see that they're a form of entertainment and people - maybe not us but people - like them.

The people starring in them are making the kind of money that they wouldn't be able to make working down Tescos. Perhaps in an ideal world, salaries would be commensurate with how much the earner was adding to the overall sum of human experience... Is it not just intellectual snobbery to condemn people for making the best living they're capable of?

[Rhinestone Cowboy]

Glen Campbell I mean what has he done lately.

[AcedOut]

In Cheryl Cole's defence, I actually met her for the first time at Ashley Cole's 21st birthday party a few years ago (my friend is good mates with him). She's a nice enough girl really. A lot more human than most of the 'WAGS' (god, I hate that term) out there. She came across as being fairly reserved and unassuming. I certainly wouldn't put her in the same category as the likes of Roonie's other half, whatever her name is! As a couple, they were not there to impress or get stupidly intoxicated. In fact, it was one of the more civilised parties I've been to in my life. The press just love to make a story out of nothing...

Just to add to the name-dropping, I was out at a club in Vegas last weekend and had the displeasure of both Brittany and J-Lo in the same venue. The entourages were hilarious! It was obvious that a lot of Brittany's 'girl-friends' were hired in and she also had her own photographer (anyone else even attempting to take photos was frog-marched to the door!). We promptly left soon after they arrived, at it was an atmosphere killer for us.

Celebrity for celebrity sake. I can't stand it. There are very few other countries that are as obsessed with it as the UK. I think it's generally for people that have nothing interesting in their own lives to be getting on with, so would rather follow that of others...

[Moos]

Nicole Ritchie, Callum Best, Paris Hilton, Kimberly Stewart, whatever Ray Winstone's daughter is called, whatever the tongue-out-sticking, singing daughter of that crazy-looking actor is called ... anyone who's famous for being someone famous's child, being thin and falling out of taxis. The Osbourne children are excepted, as they seem quite fun and sassy.

But I agree with Mockers that it's all to do with the viewing public buying the mags...

Slightly unbelievably, I think Noel Gallagher made a good point about X-Factor and the inevitable fate of most of their winners quite recently. What do you do when you used to be a check-out person, and then you were a pop star and now you aren't a pop star any more?

[Keef]

Jade Goody. It irritates me that someone so stupid could be in so many magazines.

I don't think she's anywhere near as thick as people think. She's no accademic, but she has done what many other contestants of BB have failed to do and made quite a success of herself.

[Moos]

I know what you mean, Keef. She's a bit like Katie Price - she's obviously determined, astute and sharp. So not really stupid. But she IS stupid in lots of quite important ways - like the ability to listen, the ability to be interested in the world around her, any kind of curiosity. I found her and her monstrous mother's presence on our TV screens quite scary.

[SeanMacGabhann]

people who buy Kate Price's books, and when told she doesn't actually write them say "I don't care"

well, what DO you care about?

[Izodia]

Yes she's made quite a bit of money...but what is she successful for?

[david_carnell]

Richard Littlejohn

Piers Morgan

Melanie Philips

- all for the obvious reasons

Geri Halliwell - I think it's the desparation to be loved that grates.

Bono - Take off those fecking sunglasses (oh and The Edge - for being called The Edge) and get out of my tv.

Gillian McKeith - I'm on a FaceBook group that pledges to force-feed the witch a mars-bar if I ever spot her in the street.

[Keef]

The Osbourne children are excepted, as they seem quite fun and sassy.

I quite like Jack & Kelly. I mean they were bought up with money, fair enough, but then suddenly found themselves living in a soap opera, and were obviously going to act up a bit. However, I think they've both grown up and hold themselves quite well.

Interestingly, they have an older sister Aimee, who was old enough to make the decision to have nothing to do with The Osbourne's TV show, and any footage with her in could not be used. Good for her, but Kelly & Jack were too young to have made that decision and moved out.

Sharon Osbourne... I go from respecting and quite liking her, to thinking she is the most dispicible thing on telly (next to JSP of course). Great business woman (got that from her dad), but was happier when Ozzy was just a rock God, and she was his manager!

[Cassius]

I simply don't care about any of them - however what I find sad is that some young girls would rather be a WAG or to gain 'celebrity' status in some other way than actually go out and get a job/career. If all you ever aspire to is to wear killer heels (and other stuff) on the front cover of a magazine - what do you do when you realise that isn't ever going to happen.