???? Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 If Russell Brand (aged 39) is a spokesman for modern youth culture (and i'm not sure he is to be honest) it shows how impoversihed modern youth culture is. Hipster isn'y really youth culture is it? It seems to skew towards thirty somethings and is revoltingly white and middle-class to be much of a propa youth culture... Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/43612-hipsters/page/18/#findComment-822522 Share on other sites More sharing options...
miga Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 R Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/43612-hipsters/page/18/#findComment-822523 Share on other sites More sharing options...
StraferJack Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 "it shows how impoversihed modern youth culture is. "That grumpy grandad phase gets ever closer doesn't it? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/43612-hipsters/page/18/#findComment-822524 Share on other sites More sharing options...
miga Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 . Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/43612-hipsters/page/18/#findComment-822526 Share on other sites More sharing options...
???? Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 StraferJack Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> "it shows how impoversihed modern youth culture> is. "> > > That grumpy grandad phase gets ever closer doesn't> it?If Russell Brand (aged 39) is a spokesman for modern youth culture (and i'm not sure he is to be honest) Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/43612-hipsters/page/18/#findComment-822527 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 I don't even understand why this association between Russell Brand and youth culture was made in the first place... Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/43612-hipsters/page/18/#findComment-822536 Share on other sites More sharing options...
miga Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 The article. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/43612-hipsters/page/18/#findComment-822539 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otta Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 ???? Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> It seems to skew towards thirty somethings and is revoltingly white and middle-classThis Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/43612-hipsters/page/18/#findComment-822544 Share on other sites More sharing options...
StraferJack Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 I always felt there was more than a hint of Nathan Barley about snorks Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/43612-hipsters/page/18/#findComment-822546 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earl Aelfheah Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 What is a Hipster exactly? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/43612-hipsters/page/18/#findComment-822563 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Poste's Child Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 Shall I put on Countryfile and make us a nice up of tea? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/43612-hipsters/page/18/#findComment-822568 Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Pibe Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 what is a hipster?still best article I've read on ithttp://potlatch.typepad.com/weblog/2011/03/an-open-letter-to-the-hipsters.html Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/43612-hipsters/page/18/#findComment-822571 Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveo Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 What I want to know is does anyone admit to being one?'I am a hipster and I'm proud of it.'Or do they read the hipster hate and like Judas point at the other bearded bloke? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/43612-hipsters/page/18/#findComment-822583 Share on other sites More sharing options...
red devil Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 El Pibe Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> what is a hipster?> > still best article I've read on it> http://potlatch.typepad.com/weblog/2011/03/an-open> -letter-to-the-hipsters.htmlYep, I like that article, especially as I recognise most of the name checks ;-)Speaking of which, what has Robert Peston done with his hair!... Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/43612-hipsters/page/18/#findComment-822587 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earl Aelfheah Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 That article doesn't actually explain what a hipster is at all. I suspect because it's a catch all phrase, without a clear definition - and therefore used to disparage whoever one wants to disparage. There are all sort of vague references to characteristics of 'The Hipster', but which don't seem to have any coherence as far as I can tell. To suggest that the rave generation weren't silly in there fashions, or often apathetic in their politics, (but today's youth are), is nonsense. So what do you mean by a 'hipster'? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/43612-hipsters/page/18/#findComment-822852 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 My attempt at a description would be someone who follows a certain type of fashion (the stereotype would be skinny jeans, check shirt.. or maybe mismatched "vintage" clothing). Bushy beard and tatts. Is of a certain age (post-student to mid-thirties). Prefers bottled IPA to lager. Works for themselves rather than "the man", quite possibly related to street food or "dirty" burgers. Or in digital/social media. Talks about Brooklyn and Berlin a lot. Music tastes tend towards the folky side of "alternative", or esoteric non-danceable electronic music. Predominantly - but not exclusively - a white middle-class phenomenon. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/43612-hipsters/page/18/#findComment-822865 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earl Aelfheah Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 Thanks Jeremey, that's pretty clear description, although I still suspect that others would list different thing. Either way, I'm not sure what you describe constitutes 'youth culture'.I think there is a description of 'a look' in there, which could just as easily be described as mainstream men's fashion (I would say more for 30-40 year old men).The rise in 'street food' and beer is a phenomenon in it's own right. Lot's of peeps like burgers and beer and don't necessarily have beards, wear vintage etc.I don't particularly see the link with any of the above and working in digital media tbh -except in so far as there are a lot of 30-40 year old white men in those industries.I suspect that this is the reason that you don't hear a lot of people self identifying as 'hipsters' - because it isn't a coherent tribe in any real sense.But even accepting this definition of what makes a hipster, my main issue with all of this (and that article in particular), is that it's just some people feeling anger at other's tastes - an anger which is then justified through painfully contrived exposition about the seriousness, profundity and importance of previous fashion movements. The fact, is the hippies, the punks and rave kids, were all ridiculous in their own ways. "..but they look ridiculous, why don't they care!!"... why do you? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/43612-hipsters/page/18/#findComment-822879 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 rahrahrah Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> I think there is a description of 'a look' in> there, which could just as easily be described as> mainstream men's fashionBut that's what happens isn't it... things tend to eventually cross over into the mainstream, which is of course the beginning of the end.> is that it's just some people feeling anger at other's tastes I don't think there's genuine anger, all the "hipster scum" stuff seems to be an exaggeration for comic effect. Any disdain is probbaly because most of us on here are of an age where we no longer feel the need to conform to some kind of fashion uniform, so we look down on others that do... especially when in some cases they're almost as old as us. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/43612-hipsters/page/18/#findComment-822891 Share on other sites More sharing options...
titch juicy Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 Jeremy Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> rahrahrah Wrote:> --------------------------------------------------> -----> > I think there is a description of 'a look' in> > there, which could just as easily be described> as> > mainstream men's fashion> > But that's what happens isn't it... things tend to> eventually cross over into the mainstream, which> is of course the beginning of the end.> > > is that it's just some people feeling anger at> other's tastes > > I don't think there's genuine anger, all the> "hipster scum" stuff seems to be an exaggeration> for comic effect. Any disdain is probbaly because> most of us on here are of an age where we no> longer feel the need to conform to some kind of> fashion uniform, so we look down on others that> do... especially when in some cases they're almost> as old as us.but why do people feel the need to look down on them? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/43612-hipsters/page/18/#findComment-822896 Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Pibe Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 human nature innit.We all constantly have an internal bubble sort going on as we finely calibrate our position in the world and our relationships to pretty much everything.Currently anyone sporting an outlandish victorian moustache and riding a penny farthing sits below me on my inner-peace ladder, but possibly above me in the doing-something-more-constructive-than-soul-destroying-development-work-for-the-man ladder. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/43612-hipsters/page/18/#findComment-822900 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salsaboy Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 Big bushy beard and silly hairstyle. The same for the men. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/43612-hipsters/page/18/#findComment-822925 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jah Lush Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 Salsaboy Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> Big bushy beard and silly hairstyle. The same for> the men.Karl Marx or Brian Blessed. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/43612-hipsters/page/18/#findComment-822934 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Poste's Child Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 My favourites are the ones got up like fishermen in a 1950s boys' comic. I passed three identical ones on Upper St recently and I'm afraid I laughed out loud. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/43612-hipsters/page/18/#findComment-822943 Share on other sites More sharing options...
malumbu Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 See thread on most expensive pint ever Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/43612-hipsters/page/18/#findComment-822946 Share on other sites More sharing options...
red devil Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 Mine was on Rye Lane, resplendent in a beige Paddington Bear duffle coat teamed with a rather fetching orange Day-Glo satchel. He could've done without the assymetrical fringe though... Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/43612-hipsters/page/18/#findComment-822947 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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