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miga Wrote:

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> I offered an opinion on a public forum. The

> opinion is not an uncommon one, namely: "there's

> no music so bland as stadium indie rock". Then

> someone asked to name some things I liked, which

> included such obscurities as Slayer, Steely Dan

> and some others that didn't start with an 'S'. The

> person that asked that question didn't engage with

> my answer meaningfully. Then you failed to offer a

> joke. There's nothing to continue.


but, with the exception of two or three of them none of those bands are stadium indie rock


slag them off once you've listened to them instead of assuming

miga Wrote:

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> Otta Wrote:

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> > You won't have heard of them. Way too cool for

> the likes of you.

>

> I used to spend an inordinate amount of time

> listening to music. As a result, a lot of the

> stuff I enjoy(ed) was (relatively) obscure. I

> would never claim a one to one link between

> popularity and lack of quality, if that's what

> you're getting at.



I was just messin really.




But Slayer and Steely Dan aren't that obscure surely.


I don't rate Slayer personally.

El Pibe Wrote:

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> I had a very long commute home.

>

> Steely dan have some cracking tunes, but they're

> one of those bands I think I ought to like more

> than I actually do.

> They tend to get airplay at casa pibe when my muso

> brother in law is over.


Excellent shout, Steely Dan haven't made a duff album, and Donald Fagens last, Sunken Condos, is a joy

jimbo1964 Wrote:

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> > Excellent shout, Steely Dan haven't made a duff

> > album, and Donald Fagens last, Sunken Condos, is

> a

> > joy

>

> Thanks for the heads up. I didn't realise he had

> another out. All his solo work has been good.



Sunken condos came out a couple of years ago, I manged to get a CD copy and a vinyl copy, one has more tracks than the other but can't remember which version has the additional material.

El Pibe Wrote:

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> Aah, good old donald.

>

> Though he may be responsible for the single worse

> lyric of all time:

>

> "There'll be spandex jackets one for everyone"


He was also responsible for


Wake up darling they're knocking the Colonel's standing in the sun

With his stupid face the glasses and the gun

Jah Lush Wrote:

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> Quite frankly, Steely Dan have always bored me.

> Even back in the 70s they bored the pants off me.


Musical taste is very subjective Jah, I have the same problem with a lot of 70's bands, Deep Purple and Captain Beefheart among them, but Steel Dan I've always had a deep affection for

It's been several decades, if they haven't started to grow after all that its not going to happen is it.


I dunno, i think it might be too serious a business for me.


I like stuff you need to listen and parse, i like stuff that challenges, but sometimes music just needs to have a god tune or sound pretty, all things for all occassions.


I too trawl through obscura in the hope of finding some diamond i nthe rough, but i suspect most remain obscure, not so much because they are too far from the mainstream, but because they're not good enough. I'll admit to having found nothing that geniunely excites for a little while now. But then I guess I'm a bit more jaded these days.


Recent stuff I've enjoyed seems to have been of the more wash-over-you variety like Chvrches or Pure Bathing Culture.


Sometimes I'd rather jack, but sometimes i'd rather fleetwood mac you know!!

miga Wrote:

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> El Pibe Wrote:

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> > Jah, i kind of agree.

> > I can tell they're great at their craft, but

> > ultimately I think i find them a bit boring

> too.

>

> Just let it grow on you. I think the "Royal Scam"

> and "Katy Lied" albums are the ones that really

> grabbed me.


They left me cold but each to their own.

"Just let it grow on you. I think the "Royal Scam" and "Katy Lied" albums are the ones that really grabbed me."


I like Gaucho.. No idea what any of the songs are about. But all the songs are about socially awkward situations and it too a year to record seven tracks which I like.


It's not emotional music though so they wouldn't make my desert island discs. I can't listen to Ruth Moody's voice without welling up.

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