Amending the Hunting Act.

[steveo]

The HIV/Cancer argument doesn't fly, a better comparison would be focussing on a hangnail when there's HIV out there

In my idyllic rural youth I've dragged torn apart chickens out of batteries, seen badly performed pig castrations, unpicked dead lambs from barbed wire fences, seen botched slaughtering in abbatoirs and a whole lot more.

Townies don't care how it got to the table but they do like dictating to the shires.

I think that's more what the marches/barricades were about

[Peckhamgatecrasher]

WIth regard to MPs (filthy, tory scum or otherwise), I would check out how they voted on fox hunting and then see how they voted on abortion.

That's rank hypocrisy in my book. Not ok to tear apart a fox. Fine to tear apart a baby.

Room for me there, steveo?

[steveo]

I was hesitant to play the abortion card

[Bluerevolution]

1} Different issue

2}It's a choice

[????]

3) not for the baby

[Otta]

4. There can be any number of circumstances leading to an abortion at 24 weeks.

[Jeremy]

Deleted (not going to get drawn into some awful pro-life debate)

[DulwichFox]

Just for clarification...

I did not start this thread as a Topic of Discussion....

I started this thread solely for Information so those people who abhor Fox Hunting can lobby their MP on the matter.

Feel free to discus, but I will not be getting involved in any discussion on the subject.

Everyone knows my views.

PS.. How can a Thread on The Hunting Act be turned in to a thread on Abortion..

They are not related. Please start your own thread.

DulwichFox

[PokerTime]

'Townies don't care how it got to the table but they do like dictating to the shires.'

I think this is unfair. Taking an animal to slaughter for food is not on the same par as chasing a fox to it's death of being ripped apart by dogs.....that's what most people rightly find so disgusting.

Similarly, abortion comes within stict regulations. There is good scientific evidence for shaping those regulations. Fetuses are not torn apart. To compare the two is nonsense. How about we legalise the chasing of a small child by a pack of dogs before tearing it apart, if you really want to compare like for like.

Edited to add; This thread is about fox hunting specifically. Justifying the cruelty of this sport by comparison to other perceived levels of crulety is neither here nor there. Just because regulated abortion is legal doesn;t mean we should tolerate obscene cruelty elsewhere.

[unlurked]

An actual decent thread hijacked, what a shame.

The only people that want fox hunting are tories. End of. Slipping your riding boots on loz?

Abortions, how kin ridiculous.

[StraferJack]

Is this why the toffs keep lobbying for cock fighting and badger baiting to come back too?

The narrative "metro liberals dictating to shires" isn't without some merit but by itself it doesn't explain the opposition

Loz' two categories is over simplistic

I give not one fig about foxes OR what rural types get up to

But I am suspicious of people who derive pleasure from cruelty visited upon anything that has no say

And that goes for any class.

Plenty of townies do care about where their meat gets to the table. But then they get ridiculed too

[Otta]

They only get ridiculed for using words like "sourcing". ;-)

[Loz]

unlurked Wrote:

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> The only people that want fox hunting are tories. End of.

And your proof for that is...? And your explanation for the dozen or so Labour MPs that voted against the banning legislation is...?

> Slipping your riding boots on loz?

Don't like the very concept of hunting and I'm not a Tory, so no.

[unlurked]

Loz Wrote:

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> And your proof for that is...? That the CONdem Govt is trying to sneak it back in. And your

> explanation for the dozen or so Labour MPs that

> voted against the banning legislation is...? Dicks/closet tories.

>

> > Slipping your riding boots on loz?

>

> Don't like the very concept of hunting and I'm not

> a Tory, so no.

Glad to hear it, not all bad then x

[aquarius moon]

I was born in the countryside and lived there for 30 years, so I was surrounded by people who were brought up with hunting and thought it was ok. I also knew many people who loathed it.

It definitely is not ok.

Ripping an animal to shreds for sport is sick and barbaric.

There are plenty of country dwellers who think the same as me.

It's about loving animals and respecting a life.

The people who agree with fox hunting are the same people who agree with shooting and other blood sports.

To them, a living creature means absolutely nothing.

Shame on them all.

[DulwichFox]

Thank You aquarius moon.

Can see you are very passionate on this subject.

DulwichFox.

[Loz]

aquarius moon Wrote:

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> The people who agree with fox hunting are the same

> people who agree with shooting and other blood sports.

I don't that is entirely true - or at least not in reverse. I have a big problem with an animal being chased across the countryside for half an hour until it is exhausted before being ripped to shreds by a pack of dogs. I have less of a problem with shooting, especially things like game birds, etc.

Maybe it's a touch hypocritical of me, but I think there is a difference.

[unlurked]

Completely agree with AMoon. Unless it is for survival, which it is not in this country, then there is zero need to kill any living creature other than for nasty small people to try to feel big and in control. Oh and sadists and maladjusts enjoy it too.

[aquarius moon]

Killing animals for fun/sport is the same which ever way you look at it.

But this thread is about the Hunting Act and thanks to Foxy, hopefully more people will have been made aware, followed the link and given their support.

[civilservant]

another letter on its way to Dame Tessa

thanks for the heads-up, DF

[the-e-dealer]

Cruelty is cruelty whether it is animal hunting, child abuse or attacking an adult or racism . Or war mongering in Ukraine If we condone the hunting we are allowing some cruelty all cruelty is wrong.

[steveo]

Are you saying cruelty is cruel?

[the-e-dealer]

I am saying all cruelty is wrong.

[uncleglen]

The fox doesn't care when it rips your baby, rabbit, guinea pig, lambs etc. apart and not just for food (neither does your cat for that matter), I say leave it to the farmers and country dwellers.

[Otta]