Sue Posted September 24, 2008 Share Posted September 24, 2008 Peckhamgatecrasher Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> Woodie, are you the love child of> Tony.Londonsuburbs?xxxxxxx:)):)):)) Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/4225-petrol-station-raid/page/2/#findComment-134937 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbob Posted September 25, 2008 Share Posted September 25, 2008 LibraCarr Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> Hi,> > Given the almost perfect immigration raid, did the> officers get clubpoints or Brownie points for the> initative.> > A fact is that Tesco do a thorough check on all> employee's. The only way that a raid would be> justified is that if one person was using another> persons legitimate documents for employment. This> would show up if cross reffed with the Revenue and> Customs.> One car, Four officers and a meat wagon was all> that was needed.> > It seems they were using a hammer to crack a> pistachio.> > Regards,> Libra Carr.that will explain the pcso,s in the dulwich tandoori then, they wernt actually exercising their right to buy food on their break, they were casing the joint for the immigration service. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/4225-petrol-station-raid/page/2/#findComment-135034 Share on other sites More sharing options...
snorky Posted September 25, 2008 Share Posted September 25, 2008 unfort, without the Illegals working for shit wages & in bad conditions, the UK would stallthere is a tacit level of dont ask/ dont act involved in the this type of action - th curry emporiums of London could not survive without staff working in the black economyMost illegals dont take the piss, dont claim bnefits, dont have a high pofile, dont get leathered and urinate in LL doorways on friday nights & contribute much more than they take, tabloid headlines of fraudsters aside - when was the last time you were assailed in the early hours by a group of shitfaced Bangadeshies ?I find that , for example , NIgerians on the whole are straight, hard working family people, often quite religious and more than happy to make the best of the chance to make something of their lives,yet are stigmatised as cheats by manyNow that the Eblok EU states are showing gowth & higher wages, there is a dminshing pool of legal workers who want to shovel your shit and take the sneering derision of much of the UK population Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/4225-petrol-station-raid/page/2/#findComment-135048 Share on other sites More sharing options...
snorky Posted September 25, 2008 Share Posted September 25, 2008 LibraCarr Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> Hi,> > Given the almost perfect immigration raid, did the> officers get clubpoints or Brownie points for the> initative.> > A fact is that Tesco do a thorough check on all> employee's. The only way that a raid would be> justified is that if one person was using another> persons legitimate documents for employment. This> would show up if cross reffed with the Revenue and> Customs.> One car, Four officers and a meat wagon was all> that was needed.> > It seems they were using a hammer to crack a> pistachio.> > Regards,> Libra Carr.high pofile raids appease the majority of Brits who on one hand use the labour of these workers, but on the other , demand action to halt migrationexpct to see the raid on one of those excrebale police/camera/ action programmes that seem to dominate our TV viewing in the near futurehow many Brits go to th US and work black or overstay their visasa in Australia / NZ ? but thats OK though innit ? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/4225-petrol-station-raid/page/2/#findComment-135051 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChavWivaLawDegree Posted September 25, 2008 Share Posted September 25, 2008 Go Snorky!Snorky for President. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/4225-petrol-station-raid/page/2/#findComment-135059 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChavWivaLawDegree Posted September 25, 2008 Share Posted September 25, 2008 People's attitudes to illegal migrants never fails to amaze me.Over the last 500 years or so we illegally* raped and pillaged, enslaved and claimed it as empire building.We handed the responsibility of this rape and pillage to the corporations who continue to do this on our behalf, and then when the populations of the countries who have been impoverished for our benefit want to climb out of the shit we've imposed on them and follow the trail of loot to the West to work for their families - we tell them that they are illegal and bang them up in disgusting detention centres that would be closed if they were housing UK criminals.My partner's dad is British, but he's Jamaican. We had to go back to Jamaica to apply for him to get a visa to come back as my partner and dependent. I could travel to Jamaica without a visa - in fact courtesy of her maj's little red book, I can travel pretty much anywhere, but in order to visit France, America or anywhere else that takes our fancy, my partner has to apply for visas in all of those places cos he's Jamaican.Why have I got the right to travel anywhere I please and he hasn't?An accident of birth means I am a citizen of the conquerers and he is a citizen of the conquered, that's why.* Our past behaviour would be defined as international crimes and genocide under current international law Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/4225-petrol-station-raid/page/2/#findComment-135063 Share on other sites More sharing options...
snorky Posted September 25, 2008 Share Posted September 25, 2008 / snorky turns off right on lecture mode Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/4225-petrol-station-raid/page/2/#findComment-135067 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huguenot Posted September 26, 2008 Share Posted September 26, 2008 No CWALD, that's not right. International travel restrictions are about contemporary economics, not about tired old proletariat claptrap. ;-). The rest of the world mainly thinks Brits are wallies.I do however take your point about accidents of birth. Humans have this wierd tribal thing going on, where you're seen as a representative rather than an individual. Even so, it's hypocritical to reject one tribe (the 'nation state') in order to support another (the 'proletariat') on the basis that tribalism is pants. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/4225-petrol-station-raid/page/2/#findComment-135270 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanMacGabhann Posted September 26, 2008 Share Posted September 26, 2008 I like reading what the last 3 posters have written - partly because they are all broadly correct (yet still disagree) - but also beacause I can't imagine 3 more different people than CWALD, Huguenot and snorky (although I haven't had the privilege of meeting snorks) Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/4225-petrol-station-raid/page/2/#findComment-135273 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huguenot Posted September 26, 2008 Share Posted September 26, 2008 I have nothing but love in my heart for Chav, and Snorks is spot on.Ontopication - why do we think this was an immigration raid? For the observers who feel this was heavy handed for immigration, maybe it wasn't?Offtopication - how great was Chav's comment on colonial corporations? Because I'm having a dull Friday evening I looked up the Dutch East India Company. Do you know it was the first corporation to sell stock? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/4225-petrol-station-raid/page/2/#findComment-135287 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChavWivaLawDegree Posted September 26, 2008 Share Posted September 26, 2008 High praise indeed, Huggie!! Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/4225-petrol-station-raid/page/2/#findComment-135329 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brendan Posted September 26, 2008 Share Posted September 26, 2008 It was also the corporation that set up the first colony at the Cape of Good Hope in the mid 16 hundreds, which resulted eventually in me. So the world owes them a debt of gratitude in that respect at least. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/4225-petrol-station-raid/page/2/#findComment-135334 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peckhamgatecrasher Posted September 26, 2008 Share Posted September 26, 2008 Gawd Bless the East India Company. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/4225-petrol-station-raid/page/2/#findComment-135349 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brendan Posted September 26, 2008 Share Posted September 26, 2008 Corporate monopolies and the exploitation of colonial land and people aside, how cool are those big old ships. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/4225-petrol-station-raid/page/2/#findComment-135358 Share on other sites More sharing options...
candj Posted September 26, 2008 Share Posted September 26, 2008 Yes, and think of all that fantastic porcelain from China that ended up in Europe because of the VOC. In fact, the porcelain was a by-product of the rather lopsided trade as it was to act as ballast for the tea that was being shipped.Edited to add - Soooo off topic! Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/4225-petrol-station-raid/page/2/#findComment-135370 Share on other sites More sharing options...
snorky Posted September 26, 2008 Share Posted September 26, 2008 SeanMacGabhann Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> I like reading what the last 3 posters have> written - partly because they are all broadly> correct (yet still disagree) - but also beacause I> can't imagine 3 more different people than CWALD,> Huguenot and snorky (although I haven't had the> privilege of meeting snorks)Snorky woiuld come along, but fears a right old kickingone or two ED posters have met me, so apparently I do exist Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/4225-petrol-station-raid/page/2/#findComment-135421 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moos Posted September 26, 2008 Share Posted September 26, 2008 You've got that wrong, Snorky, I think most people love you. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/4225-petrol-station-raid/page/2/#findComment-135423 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveT Posted September 27, 2008 Share Posted September 27, 2008 Yes snorkers put on your anti-stab jacket and come along to the next forum beano, think positive. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/4225-petrol-station-raid/page/2/#findComment-135551 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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