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Dig me having a moan again! If it's not foxes it's bloody, noisy helicopters. I have been kept awake often due to the latter, and even though I squeezed my earplugs in tightly into my ears last night, the noise from above was still extremely loud. I didn't manage to sleep 'til past midnight.


Does anyone know what this is all about? Are they police helicopters?

FYI - A couple of years ago a house on the corner of Crystal Palace Rd and Sylvester Rd caught fire and when the fire services had extinguished the fire they realised it was a cannabis farm and the power had come from jumping the electricity meter. I think the property had been rented by Chinese/Vietnamese folks.


(please PM me if you wish to accuse me of being racist, non-PC or a member of the KKK for making the distinction, so we don't distract the thread !)

Moos Wrote:

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> Aren't we supposed to be supporting local

> businesses, rather than buying imported goods with

> a higher carbon footprint?

>

> But disappointed by the news - I believed the

> helicopters to be chasing desprit criminals

> through the streets like on telly.


:))


They'll be giving out hemp recycled bags with every eighth next in order to advertise their homegrown non gm, organic local fayre.

cspencer77 Wrote:

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> They are police helicopters and they are looking

> for extreme heat sources from houses


How do you know? They do have other activities. Do you have inside information, did you see it/them doing a linear search pattern, ...?

My friend Julie who lives opposite Rusking Park says a large (RAF?)rescue helicopter landed in the middle of said park in the night with a patient for Kings Hospital and that it was much noisier than your normal helicopters- making a huge racket warming up to take off again. Could it have been this one?
I remember hearing the air ambulance when it landed in the Darrell Road Community Centre play ground (shooting of old boy who ran the post office that used to be on Crystal Palace Road - he survived but they closed the shop). It was incredibly noisy, far noisier than the police helicopter I think.

My friend is a copper in Leeds and they use them - she said it was likely to be looking for heat sensors if they hover over head for ages - if they were flying to hospital why would they keen hovering?


Also my flat mates uncle rented a house out - and found out via the police and a heat sensor helicopter that it was being used to grow cannabis plants - millions of them - in the attic, and all the bedrooms - downstairs looked totally normal - upstairs massive cannabis farm.


I am not saying that is what these helicopters are - it was just what i had been told.

I'm not sure about the economics, but it might be cheaper to hang a helicopter over three boroughs at once and pretend it's a patrol than it would be to divert human resources to sit in cars. After all, there's no point in a visible police presence when nobody's awake enough to notice. By using helicopters, Plod can supply the requisite watchful eyes and audible reassurance while freeing up valuable human resources for core functions, such as fobbing off callers, perforating citizens and assisting employment lawyers. In addition, helicopters, though noisy, are much less likely to mow down children in the street, which is arguably a good thing.


As for air ambulances, CAA regulations are strict enough to make it very difficult for them to fly at night. Even those with the necessary special equipment inside still need to have appropriately equipped and staffed landing places. So the majority of them, including the London air ambulance, are a bit pointless after dark. Police helicopters, like police cars and firearms officers, are exempt from all known regulations, and therefore can do whatever they like, provided it doesn't involve landing or saving lives. RAF helicopters can also fly at night, but only do so when the national interest requires them to ferry a toff to a party. Unfortunately I cannot speculate on the Ruskin Park incident as the loftier salons of Denmark Hill are still closed to me, but should the Southwark News ever stretch to a gossip column I'm sure the truth would out.

There was a cannabis factory in Hansler Road a few months ago, the helicopters had been buzzing around a lot and the place was raided one morning, it took them all day to take away all the plants in a big van. The police use helicopters with thermal things to spot houses using excessive power (apparently they had tapped into the mains this time). But some police forces now have thermal things that are hand-held by police officers, which obviously cause less noise than helicopters!

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