Draft house

[DulwichFox]

12" Medium Cheddar Crust BBQ Pizzas

1 Slice Pizza

Cal 270 2160

Cal from fat 110 880

Total Fat(g) 12 96

Sat Fat(g) 5 40

Trans Fat(g) 0 0

Cholest 30 240

Sodium(mg) 560 4480

Carbs(g) 29 232

Fiber(g) 1 8

Sugars(g) 4 32

Protein(mg) 11 88

Healthy ??? don't think so..

Total Junk Food.

DulwichFox

[titch juicy]

Louisa Wrote:

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> Jeremy you know as well as I do that you can go to

> the Dulwich Cafe (or similar) and have a large

> meal and drink for under a fiver. Now I challenge

> you to find a pizza "restaurant" that serves up

> anything nearly as healthy and filling for the

> same price. You are justifying the unjustifiable

> and you know it! Bread with bits on 8-20 quid or a

> meal with meat and two veg for under a fiver. I

> rest my case.

>

> Louisa.

So, everybody should just eat meat, spuds and 2 veg in a cafe?

[Earl Aelfheah]

You've quoted nutrition information from a 12" Medium Cheddar Crust BBQ Pizza. Presumably a heavily processed, factory manufactured, frozen one.

In case you genuinely aren't aware (I suspect you are) there is a difference.

[Earl Aelfheah]

.... also, bear in mind that we are comparing it with a fry up from Dulwich Cafe here.

[DulwichFox]

rahrahrah Wrote:

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> You've quoted nutrition information from a 12"

> Medium Cheddar Crust BBQ Pizza. Presumably a

> heavily processed, factory manufactured, frozen

> one.

>

> In case you genuinely aren't aware (I suspect you

> are) there is a difference.

The example given was one of the lowest readings.

[MrBen]

Rahrahrah - this calorie warning is from a man who is one of Jaflong's biggest customers. But let us not let that get in the way of some timely health advice.

:-)

[Siduhe]

MrBen Wrote:

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> Rahrahrah - this calorie warning is from a man who

> is one of Jaflong's biggest customers. But let us

> not let that get in the way of some timely health

> advice.

>

> :-)

MrBen, you just had to go there, didn't you...I believe we have a very clear response from Foxy on this already...

;-)

http://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/forum/read.php?30,1159793,1171137#msg-1171137

http://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/forum/read.php?30,1159793,1171610#msg-1171610

[MrBen]

Ar5e. I'm sorry. I fear I've derailed this thread....please feel free to ignore the next 5 posts before it gets back to Franco's.

I should know better by now.

[DulwichFox]

MrBen Wrote:

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> Rahrahrah - this calorie warning is from a man who

> is one of Jaflong's biggest customers. But let us

> not let that get in the way of some timely health

> advice.

>

> :-)

As a consequence of eating mainly curry for 3 years NOT just in Jaflong. my HBa1c

average blood sugar count over 3 months is down to 5.3 mmol/L

Diabetes is 7.0 mmol/L under 5.9 mmol/L is non diabetic.

I have in fact reversed my diabetes. and now eat almost anything I want.

It would of cause be silly to start eating things like donuts and the like.

I'm fairly fit. Walk 5+ miles every day. Im 9 st 5lb.

Curries are healthy.

[Jeremy]

How many grams of fat do you think are in a chicken curry from Jaflong?

[DulwichFox]

Just to put the record straight...

I think the Franco Manca prices seem reasonable.

Friends who have used the Brixton branch speak highly of the place and I trust their judgement.

I simple do not much like cheese or tomatoes except when cooked in sauces such as curry.

I simply do not like Pizza.

I'm sure they will do well and wish them all the very best especially after they have

done so much work to the place to overcome the previous problems with the design of the building.

DulwichFox.

[Louisa]

Just mention of the word pizza throws up nightmare images of saturated fat from extremely unhealthy dairy and processed meats. Not to mention the overload of carbs. Makes me want to puke thinking about this unhealthy garbage meal being spouted as a healthy alternative to a meal containing vegetables. I've genuinely heard it all now. Pizza might taste delicious to some of you,but I can assure you it's far from healthy and Foxy is damn right with those stats. I think there should be a panorama program on it.

Louisa.

[MrBen]

The message is clear. We should all eat more curry.

But seriously... well done on your blood sugar Fox. However you've managed it.

[albert]

Think the new FM looks fantastic. My kids can't wait to go. Great addition to the Lane. Hope they do well. Popped into Pretty's Tapas last night, just for a look at the menu. Very reasonable and looked great. How wonderful to live near a High Street with a such a great diversity of restaurants. Luckly, the people who run most of them take this forum with a large pinch of blood pressure salt.

[Sue]

Jeremy Wrote:

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> Sue, you used to tell us all what an easy walk it

> was from ED to Hoopers when you had gigs there!

> (it was an easy walk... the Gowlett is even

> easier).

Did I? Well, I suppose I would say that, wouldn't I?! :)

But then, I was looking at a walk to see people like Wizz Jones or Bob Rafkin, who you couldn't see elsewhere locally, not a walk to eat a pizza.

>

> "Pea, leek, gorgonzola, ricotta and spinach" -

> it's unorthodox for a pizza topping, but as a

> combination of flavours I would consider it fairly

> normal. Actually it sounds quite good.

Tell you what, go and have one, then come back and report on it here.

Of course, I agree it might taste a bit better if actually cooked :))

[titch juicy]

Louisa Wrote:

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> Just mention of the word pizza throws up nightmare

> images of saturated fat from extremely unhealthy

> dairy and processed meats. Not to mention the

> overload of carbs. Makes me want to puke thinking

> about this unhealthy garbage meal being spouted as

> a healthy alternative to a meal containing

> vegetables. I've genuinely heard it all now. Pizza

> might taste delicious to some of you,but I can

> assure you it's far from healthy and Foxy is damn

> right with those stats. I think there should be a

> panorama program on it.

>

> Louisa.

What about pizzas with vegetable toppings?

[DulwichFox]

I've tried a slice of pizza at The Actress . When it first opened.. ?3.00 per slice.

It was bland tasteless undercooked and cold.

Pretty nasty.

[DulwichFox]

The new Franco Manca looks good.

Best make-over round these parts.

Especially when you compare it to some of the other attempts of creating a dining experience,

which are bit of an insult to its customers. D?cor and mismatch of tables and chairs.

Almost tempted. lol

Foxy.

[jomou]

Louisa Wrote:

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> Just mention of the word pizza throws up nightmare

> images of saturated fat from extremely unhealthy

> dairy and processed meats.

For the record, Franco Manca is the only pizza chain I know of which has a vegan pizza (i.e. no meat or dairy) listed on their menu.

Rocca in Dulwich Village also has one, but I'm not sure whether that could be called a chain (two branches).

[Earl Aelfheah]

There is a big difference between proper Italian pizza and 'american pizza' - which is an almost entirely different product.

The type of pizzas Franco Manca produce are not particularly unhealthy, certainly better for you than anything you're likely to get in Dulwich Cafe and not unreasonably priced.

FM use Sourdough for their pizza bases which is very nutritious. Lactic acids make the vitamins and minerals in the flour more available to the body by helping neutralise the phytates in flour that would interfere with their absorption. The acids slow down the rate at which glucose is released into the blood-stream and lower the bread's glycaemic index (GI), so it doesn't cause undesirable spikes in insulin

A bit of dairy is good for you (lot's of protein, calcium and minerals) as long as you don't over do it.. and as previously mentioned they do offer a cheese free option.

Processed meats aren't great I'll grant you, but you can go for one with plenty of veg and tomato.

It's a far cry from your 'chedder crust BBQ' frozen pizza.

[Louisa]

Free slices of pizza being handed out by the people at Franco Manca as I speak. For those of you with a love of "posh cheese on toast".

Louisa.

[Annasfield]

Just tried a bit. It's very nice

[KidKruger]

Yeah I had a piece or two whilst waiting for my kebab from next door.

I like thin crust.

[Louisa]

Now Kebab & Wine is the real business. I'd happily spend a fiver on a large kebab with all the trimmings. A true Lordship Lane success story and as old school ED as me.

Louisa.

[maxxi]

Louisa Wrote:

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and

> as old school ED as me.

>

> Louisa.

the whole objection in a nutshell