Peckham Rye Station

[catma]

chattyman Wrote:

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> The area is a shit hole, people have no manners or

> standards, I live in East Dulwich and need to use

> PR station for work, if I had children, I

> certainly wouldn't let them run around strangers

> near a filthy train entrance alley, it's 2014 and

> we're in South London, we should be watching our

> children like hawks. Similarly, if I ran a

> hairdressers, I wouldn't throw anything into the

> road. Would you? This is the argument ... THEY

> ARE!

A suggestion - on arrival at PR, change to a train taking you to ED and never have to enter the Rye Lane environs at all? would that work?

[Zedd]

This thread is golden...

I want to know what a "yummy mummy" looks like to make them so easily identifiable...

[Millhaven]

Zedd Wrote:

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> This thread is golden...

>

> I want to know what a "yummy mummy" looks like to

> make them so easily identifiable...

We used to call them 'pram face' back in the 90s.

[PokerTime]

I believe she sports a hairball weave!

[george74]

I have to say, I really don't see what's cultural about throwing balls of hair the size of tumbleweed into the streets around near PR station! Unless of course it's 'Canang Sari' (Balinese street offerings). Or are we saying hair is biodegradable and best we do this instead of using rubbish bins?!?!?

Not the most pleasant journey home, but at least I get to stand on the 363 with the empty fried chicken boxes.

[TheShelleys]

I think you all mean tumbleweaves.

[Anstergirl]

All for this area being redeveloped and plans look good but " an illustrated concept of synergy" - FFS!

[northlondoner]

cle Wrote:

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> Louisa, isn't eating fried chicken ok on the bus

> because it's more like to be done by black and

> working class people? As opposed to getting

> macaron crumbs

Didn't realise that being black , I was predisposed towards eating fried chicken on a bus. Any other ass-backwards stereotypes you'd care to express ? Something about enjoying watermelon ? Good sense of rhythm perhaps ? You're a dick.

[Louisa]

Absolutely northlondoner, apparently it's ok for some users to make overt racial stereotypes on this forum for a 'joke' and not be pulled up on them- and yet when I raise something comparably insignificant like reserving a parking space with a wheelie bin or class I'm hammered into the ground. Very much double standards. Some of the forum morality police might want to get their priorities in order.

Louisa.

[Zebedee Tring]

Although I agree with this approach, you're very brave. Unfortunately some day someone challenged in this way may duff you up or stab you for being so impertinent (irony alert). A very sad situation.

People have complained on this thread about massive people carrier size buggies. What about the kids tearing along the pavement on their two wheel cycles? One these little buggers nearly crashed into me this morning and when I expressed disapproval the kid's mother/grandmother looked at me as if I was being unreasonable.

And I'm not getting into the old boring working class/ middle class argument that is so prevalent on this MB. Bad, inconsiderate behaviour is unacceptable, regardless of race, colour, creed, class, sexual orientation etc.

[Toddinator]

I like seeing and hearing kids laughing and playing in the street, it's great to know they're not sat in front of the TV like so many other kids. It's natural and gives them a good experience of socialisation, unlike the ones spending all their time on iPads and laptops.

Not too keen on the tumble weaves though!

[neilson99]

I'm very concerned with the influx of people that aren't from this area and come in ignoring our cultural norms that we have built up over a number of years, and trying to change them because they are different and subjectively don't like them and don't want to integrate with the community.

The sooner we ban these middle class white kids and their single speed bike and the wannabes who can't afford to live in Clapham/Barnes/Primrose Hill and want to gentrify the area the better!

[MissKing]

Rye lane used to be a decent shopping place... My dad used to work in the coop selling shoes as a teenager! I hope it gets cleaned up a bit and some decent shops open... Brixton has kept hold of its culture but has good shops to boot now too! Hopefully Peckham rye lane can go the same way :)

[Jeremy]

Yep, would be good if the station redevelopment encouraged a wider range of businesses in Peckham. It's just the "bulldoze the butchers and hairdressers" posts which annoy me a bit.

[Toddinator]

Neilson99, totally agree with you! Those who don't like it should stick to East Dulwich, I'd hate to see Peckham Rye gentrified... Keep the culture and the buzz!

[Louisa]

What culture and buzz? A bunch of smelly shops with the front ripped out? The royal ballet will be culturally bricking it I think not. Some of you people on here speak such tosh.

Louisa.

[PokerTime]

Hmm and a rant about a wheelie bin and parking isn't tosh?

Why does anyone have to be so rude about people who have a different view on something? Especially those who seem to be most vocal about manners (and there are a few that seem to prevail).

Reading that stuff just turns people off from reading and posting.

[Louisa]

PokerTime. What relevance does the wheelie bin have to this thread?

When you say people I presume you're talking about me as an example. Others are the same, maybe if people like me were not treated so negatively by others when we choose to make a thread we would not respond so negatively to others. On this thread alone I've been accused of all sorts for talking the truth about the awful condition of most of Rye Lane, anyone who thinks it's a cultural hug is living in cloud cuckoo land, sorry.

Louisa.

[PokerTime]

Louisa, you have a written tone, that comes across as being adamant and intollerant. You've just done it in that post too, by suggesting that anyone who disagrees with you is living in 'cloud cuckoo land'. Can you not see why that winds people up? Just agree to disagree. It's possible to do that without belittling anyone who disagrees with you.

You are not the only one of course. A lot of discussions seem to descend into bad tempered nonsense, it's something that happens across all forums. There's nothing wrong with having strong opinions, but a bit of diplomacy goes a long way in determining how people respond to those opinions. nd learning to let others have the last word sometimes also helps.

[Toddinator]

Shame you seem so angry about it Louisa. It's just an opinion after all.

Nicely said PokerTime.

[JohnL]

Walked up Rye Lane on Saturday about 9:00 AM and it actually felt good - sun, banter, singing and clean. However by early evening many of the issues mentioned (rubbish, hair) were back.

I see street cleaners most days - so don't know what happens really.

[George.Paints]

I quite like Peckham Rye station and all of its shabbiness. And it's not even that bad! I've never noticed unsupervised kids around but I'm pretty sure I wouldn't be too phased by them, kids have got to play somewhere!

However. The tumble-weave situation is ridiculous. I HATE it. I've seen people walking along with it dragging along their shoes. The thing that sparked it for me was seeing a seemingly disabled pigeon but on closer inspection it had so much tumble weave wrapped round it's legs it couldn't walk. It made me so angry!! (Perhaps the crazy animal lady in me took over)

What makes it worse is that I have seen the ladies in the hairdressers chucking/sweeping/brushing and throwing huge clumps of hair into the street. As if it is a totally acceptable thing to do.

How can we get them to stop doing this?

[anonymous_third_part]

the stations' surrounding buildings are in dire need of being knocked down and redeveloped. I think it's very selfish of businesses (even if they are trendy) of taking advantage of cheap rent in old buildings and then campaigning for them not to be redeveloped. Places like the refreshment rooms and the Sunday Painter could easily relocate. The area will be great if it is redeveloped.

From what I can see of other areas with similar shops (Brixton, Dalston) the premisis for butchers and fishmongers are not suitable. they need to have drainage in front of each shop instead of cleaning it out on to the street and into drains on the street. This should be imposed by the council.

The hairdressers just rent chairs in these shops, so many people come in and out that weave just blows out the door. This is especially evident with children running in and out. I think the shops needs to get together to come up with a solution to stop it happening, i.e. pay someone to collect litter or explain to chair renters that they need to clean up.

At the end of the day, it is littering and fines can be (and should be) imposed.

Anyone who 'loves the diversity' of rye lane would appreciate redevelopment. Decisions need to be made, and consultation is in my opinion a delaying tactic so people can either get loads of compensation or continue to make money at the expense of the wider community.

[PokerTime]

To dismiss consultation in that way is nonsense. Consultation is an important part of the planning process, and gives local communities an important voice in the area they live in/ use. Because of consultation, many things that would have been detrimental to the area didn't happen. If you read an earlier post from me regarding Peckham Vision, you'll see exactly what could have become of Rye Lane without consultation and a right of reply by local residents.

[titch juicy]

Louisa Wrote:

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> Absolutely northlondoner, apparently it's ok for

> some users to make overt racial stereotypes on

> this forum for a 'joke' and not be pulled up on

> them- and yet when I raise something comparably

> insignificant like reserving a parking space with

> a wheelie bin or class I'm hammered into the

> ground. Very much double standards. Some of the

> forum morality police might want to get their

> priorities in order.

>

> Louisa.

ummm, the poster was pulled up