Keef Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 Hi guys, I am applying for a new job, and the only thing on the person spec (fortunately way down the bottom) that I don't really get is;7.1 Ability to develop, review and implement objectives for direct reports.Don't understand the jargon, what does that mean????? :-S Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/3927-direct-reports-wtf/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
jumpinjackflash Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 does Direct Reports mean the people that will be directly reporting to you or you'll be reporting to them??:-S Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/3927-direct-reports-wtf/#findComment-123316 Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Bob* Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 Essentially, it doesn't mean anything, Keef. It's just a load of shit.But then that's what most jobs are. Just a load of shit. If they ask you about it, just say "Don't worry, my ability to develop, review and implement objectives for direct reports is second to none." Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/3927-direct-reports-wtf/#findComment-123318 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanMacGabhann Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 Jargon is painful isn't it?But basically it means, if you are put in charge of a team, can you manage them they way we (the company) want (or say we want) - you know, do appraisals, set objectives ("promise to brush up on those excel skills Barry?" - "yes boss") and review those objectives for each of your team. yadda yadda Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/3927-direct-reports-wtf/#findComment-123319 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siduhe Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 I read it as "ability to develop the skills of people who directly report into the role I'm applying for" Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/3927-direct-reports-wtf/#findComment-123320 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keef Posted August 5, 2008 Author Share Posted August 5, 2008 Basically I'd pretty much filled it in as *bob* suggests, but may add a sprinkling of bull sh!t now just to really impress the people that are impressed by this sort of thing... What happened to speaking English?!?Thanks for the advise. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/3927-direct-reports-wtf/#findComment-123324 Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Bob* Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 je ne sais pas Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/3927-direct-reports-wtf/#findComment-123325 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peckhamgatecrasher Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 Just keep mentioning stakeholders in the interview - a cinch. Good luck. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/3927-direct-reports-wtf/#findComment-123326 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mockney piers Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 Are they Reports written in SQLDirect?You're better off just learning SQL, it's much easier than those awful graphical interfaces. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/3927-direct-reports-wtf/#findComment-123328 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moos Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 Definitely means people reporting directly to you. Good luck! Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/3927-direct-reports-wtf/#findComment-123330 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keef Posted August 5, 2008 Author Share Posted August 5, 2008 Does this sound naff enough?"I believe in assisting in the personal and professional development of those who report directly to me by setting achievable objectives and regular supervision and monitoring."*tries to stop himself from being sick* Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/3927-direct-reports-wtf/#findComment-123331 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jumpinjackflash Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 (tu) Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/3927-direct-reports-wtf/#findComment-123332 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moos Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 Serious answer? Are we playing the game here?I'd replace 'assisting' with 'promoting', 'achievable' with 'realistic but stretching' and 'regular supervision and monitoring' with 'continual and interactive support, direction and feedback'.Hee hee.Why are other people's jobs so much more fun? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/3927-direct-reports-wtf/#findComment-123333 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brendan Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 I think they mean people who will be reporting directly to you. Good luck! Remember to know you KPIs from your CPD, keep your grassroots stakeholder schematics synergised and other such cockwallop. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/3927-direct-reports-wtf/#findComment-123335 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moos Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 I thought the cockwallop was a public school thing. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/3927-direct-reports-wtf/#findComment-123336 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jah Lush Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 Seems you're a quick learner at the bullshitting game Keef. Well done and good luck with the bullshitters. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/3927-direct-reports-wtf/#findComment-123339 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asset Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 Oh Cripes! I'm gonna be doing this soon. I have no idea how to answer questions like that, never having had to apply for a job before!Are there any courses you can do in application form filling? I bet there are. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/3927-direct-reports-wtf/#findComment-123344 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brendan Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 Try this Keef. (it?s worked for me in the past)?I believe in motivating those who report to me by bribing them with chocolate.? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/3927-direct-reports-wtf/#findComment-123346 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brendan Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 Moos Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> I thought the cockwallop was a public school> thing.Public schools yes. Some private clubs too. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/3927-direct-reports-wtf/#findComment-123353 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keef Posted August 5, 2008 Author Share Posted August 5, 2008 Bloody hell, it's only heading up a new team advising and providing advocacy to visually impaired people, I could do that with my eyes closed (pardon the pun)! :(Moos, are you serious, because..."I believe in promoting the personal and professional development of those who report directly to me by setting realistic objectives and giving continual and interactive support, direction and feedback"... Just sounds a bit too clever for me :-SBugger it, it's going in!Maybe I'm safer in social services, although all this stupid speak is creeping more and more in to our office! Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/3927-direct-reports-wtf/#findComment-123358 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ant Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 "I use SMART objectives to maximise the personal and professional development of my team."HR jargon, gratuitous use of the word 'team' and POWER-VERBS for the win. (Ugh.) Now if only I could remember what smart objectives are... S-something, Measurable, Achievable, Realistic and T-something - probably targeted.Good luck Keef. Hope the job's worth the jargon. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/3927-direct-reports-wtf/#findComment-123362 Share on other sites More sharing options...
macker Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 Ant Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> S-something, Measurable, Achievable, Realistic and> T-something - probably targeted.S=Specific(sad bastard) Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/3927-direct-reports-wtf/#findComment-123370 Share on other sites More sharing options...
citizenED Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 T = Tiddlewinks S = Smart Alec Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/3927-direct-reports-wtf/#findComment-123373 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moos Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 T = Timebound. ie you have to tell them by when they have to have the tea made.Keef, yes I was kind of serious. Managementspeak is of course bollocks but being managed by someone who really wants ('promotes') you to get on, who actually sets objectives that you can make but aren't ridiculously easy, and who takes the time to talk to you, tell you how you're doing and how you can do it better is great. Not that you wouldn't do that anyway, but the point is if you are playing the application game, you might as well say 'I'm a good guy' in the language they've asked you to speak. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/3927-direct-reports-wtf/#findComment-123377 Share on other sites More sharing options...
indiepanda Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 God, I hate management speak, hate it when I find myself doing it. The one that drives me potty at the moment is when I am asked to do a report in powerpoint slide format for people to "talk to" in a meeting instead of for them to use in a meeting where they are talking to other people.This example doesn't even seem to make sense, "develop, review and implement objectives..." at best you develop the objectives, given them to your team to implement and then you review their performance against them. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/3927-direct-reports-wtf/#findComment-123462 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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