Quaywe Posted July 30, 2008 Share Posted July 30, 2008 Park Hill is at it again. This time they want to develop 7x flats on top of the esph building on Lordship Lane. This will involved building an additional level to make it a 3 story building + putting roof terraces on the second level. Being an owner of a nearby property I personally will have objections for the additional parking problems it will create in neighbouring streets, not to mention a potential loss of privacy to my property. I don't know if this is coincidence or not but the consultation has come out rather conveniently at holiday time when many people won't be reading, or more importantly, objecting. Just thought I'd make it a little more public: http://planningonline.southwarksites.com/planningonline2/AcolNetCGI.exe?ACTION=UNWRAP&RIPNAME=Root.PgeResultDetail&TheSystemkey=9528240 Ref: 08/AP/0828. To comment on this planning application please email [email protected]. Please make sure that you state the application number and your postal address. Note the consultation period ends on 16/08/2008. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/3885-park-hill-properties-at-it-again/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
snorky Posted July 30, 2008 Share Posted July 30, 2008 lets hope the b*****ds are unable to sell their boxy little dwellings Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/3885-park-hill-properties-at-it-again/#findComment-122014 Share on other sites More sharing options...
karter Posted July 31, 2008 Share Posted July 31, 2008 Hey Quaywe,I can understand the frustration. Parkhill is also developing several flats above Whitestuff and has recently lost or thrown out his chief builder for whatever reason.How will the development above ESPH affect the gyms business though? It will be undoubtedly noisy if they get planning permission and the gym seems to be getting busier.Hey Max, are you reading? What's your take on this? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/3885-park-hill-properties-at-it-again/#findComment-122110 Share on other sites More sharing options...
capt_birdseye Posted July 31, 2008 Share Posted July 31, 2008 We got a letter through the door about this and have already objected, as we too are likely to be negatively impacted by this development. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/3885-park-hill-properties-at-it-again/#findComment-122135 Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxsharp Posted July 31, 2008 Share Posted July 31, 2008 Post amended Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/3885-park-hill-properties-at-it-again/#findComment-122137 Share on other sites More sharing options...
karter Posted July 31, 2008 Share Posted July 31, 2008 Thanks for that Max, the word is that he is a very tough Landlord, as you know . Choose your landlords wisely, i say.Will you still be taking on more gymgoers or have you reached your max as you have mentioned in the past that you have a ceiling when it comes to members? Also, what happened to the steam room? Is that going to happen?ta Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/3885-park-hill-properties-at-it-again/#findComment-122138 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanMacGabhann Posted July 31, 2008 Share Posted July 31, 2008 Maxwow - interesting post. And very restrained considering the position you find yourself in. Given that there is 2 sides to every story usually I probably shouldn't take sides but best of luck to you Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/3885-park-hill-properties-at-it-again/#findComment-122142 Share on other sites More sharing options...
redan Posted July 31, 2008 Share Posted July 31, 2008 I don't know if they take objections from people outside the area (I live in Forest Hill) but I've sent off an e-mail with my objections as a gym member - I don't want to be working out in the middle of a building site! Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/3885-park-hill-properties-at-it-again/#findComment-122155 Share on other sites More sharing options...
karter Posted July 31, 2008 Share Posted July 31, 2008 redan, if parkhill gets its way then there will be no gym but just a building site as i understand it. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/3885-park-hill-properties-at-it-again/#findComment-122157 Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidm Posted July 31, 2008 Share Posted July 31, 2008 maxas a member of your gym , and a very happy member am surprised at this move by the landlord.I agree wholehartedly that the gym is an important asset to the area . Perhaps a petition could be set up for members to sign to support you against this planning application Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/3885-park-hill-properties-at-it-again/#findComment-122188 Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxsharp Posted July 31, 2008 Share Posted July 31, 2008 Karter,We have space for 100 more members at the moment. And more when we open up the new pilates studio on the first floor. As for the steam / sauna which I know is dear to your heart, we have ascertained that it is structurally feasible and have drawn up plans. We now need to raise some more money before we can do it. The plan is to do the work in the autumn (all being well).Max Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/3885-park-hill-properties-at-it-again/#findComment-122257 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJ Posted August 1, 2008 Share Posted August 1, 2008 I have had one business association with Parkhill, and on the morning of a business lease being due to sign and all looking well, he pulled out to give to a colleague and left my business without trading premiss with only 1 week left on my old lease.I can categorically say they have the morals of a gnat and clearly rides rod-shot over all in their path.I do take great pleasure knowing he has paid a fortune for property at the top of the market which will eventually hurt the profitability and cash flow of the business.F-off Parkhill T-Shirts now on sale. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/3885-park-hill-properties-at-it-again/#findComment-122430 Share on other sites More sharing options...
elizlondon Posted August 1, 2008 Share Posted August 1, 2008 So sorry to hear about this Max. I think esph is a great service and am interested in signing up for membership myself. I'd be utterly furious at the lie that the business isn't doing well, and I hope you'll be able to continue operating. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/3885-park-hill-properties-at-it-again/#findComment-122517 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amelie Posted August 1, 2008 Share Posted August 1, 2008 The owners of Dulwich DIY who know Parkhill Paul well told me that the development above the White Stuff is not Parkhill, but is being run by two former Parkhill directors. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/3885-park-hill-properties-at-it-again/#findComment-122596 Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowboarder Posted August 2, 2008 Share Posted August 2, 2008 Application seems to have been withdrawn.... Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/3885-park-hill-properties-at-it-again/#findComment-122655 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cora Posted August 2, 2008 Share Posted August 2, 2008 Which one looks like its been withdrawn the Dulwich DIY or ESPH? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/3885-park-hill-properties-at-it-again/#findComment-122659 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted August 2, 2008 Share Posted August 2, 2008 I've heard of this developer and it finally hit me, but I can't find exactly where I read it. Apparently they own dozens of properties in Camberwell that they sit on. Can't find where I read this but I have seen a couple of their small signs on buildings around the green near a bus stop. Will check again. Are they speculators? Is this how they did it on LL - sat on it for a while? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/3885-park-hill-properties-at-it-again/#findComment-122706 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dc Posted August 3, 2008 Share Posted August 3, 2008 An application for residential units on this site went to appeal several years ago and was turned down. It's difficult to see what might have changed to suddenly make this a good idea. An application for nine units put in at the end of '04 was also withdrawn. The owner may be hoping that attrition will work in this case. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/3885-park-hill-properties-at-it-again/#findComment-122787 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaveShambo Posted August 4, 2008 Share Posted August 4, 2008 I have just spoken to Sonia @ the planning office and the application has been withdrawn - unfortunately not because they have given up but because they are reconfiguring the ground floor access. Her opinion is that the developer is trying to achieve too much out of the site and will not be able to do this without significantly affecting the gym downstairs. I also live on bassano street with a top floor flat with roof terrace which would be overlooked by the new flats which i have obvioulsy objected to - unfortuntely these would probably have to be re-sent when the new applicaiton is lodged.It's nice to know i am not the only one looking at the plans with a degree of trepidation on that street. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/3885-park-hill-properties-at-it-again/#findComment-122995 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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