fl0wer Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/52740To read the campaigner's column in the Guardian online, go to its 'Comment is Free' section, here =>http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/nov/05/female-genital-mutilation-fgm-child-abuse-british-girlsHer contribution is included in a TV programme for Channel 4.catch-up link http://www.channel4.com/programmes/the-cruel-cut/4odWarning: this film will be gruesome & opens with on-line guidance for protecting children's viewing. The so-called 'cultural' arguments are reviewed as part of Leyla's campaign. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/38185-fgm-topic-back-in-todays-news/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncleglen Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 Should we really be interfering in other peoples' cultures? As they say. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/38185-fgm-topic-back-in-todays-news/#findComment-693555 Share on other sites More sharing options...
devsdev Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 Yes. When anything masquerading as culture is blatantly violent, unfair, unkind and harmful, then everyone should speak out against it. Some things are very clear, like FGM. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/38185-fgm-topic-back-in-todays-news/#findComment-693577 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yuuna Posted November 6, 2013 Share Posted November 6, 2013 uncleglen Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> Should we really be interfering in other peoples'> cultures? As they say.Who is 'they'? Your ancestors who interfered in most cultures of the world and in many cases devastated them?It is a practice used to control women. This society is by no means perfect however it can have at least some positive influence, it is hoped... Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/38185-fgm-topic-back-in-todays-news/#findComment-693593 Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmilyPie Posted November 6, 2013 Share Posted November 6, 2013 Signed. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/38185-fgm-topic-back-in-todays-news/#findComment-693606 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belle Posted November 6, 2013 Share Posted November 6, 2013 Signed. Agree the issue of FGM is absolutely clear. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/38185-fgm-topic-back-in-todays-news/#findComment-693657 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiddles Posted November 6, 2013 Share Posted November 6, 2013 signed, thanks for highlighting this. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/38185-fgm-topic-back-in-todays-news/#findComment-693822 Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncleglen Posted November 6, 2013 Share Posted November 6, 2013 'They' is the PC brigade and my ancestors are Irish and Jewish thanks. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/38185-fgm-topic-back-in-todays-news/#findComment-693896 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yuuna Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 You're welcome, as always.It was unsurprising to hear of the lack lustre response by this government. 28 years and no convictions? As per usual, France and other countries are actually doing something. It was coincidental (or was it planned?) that an advert came on after the programme depicting two trucks carrying BS (read: bullshit) to the Houses of Parliament. I hope this petition and the show does bring more awareness of the issue. However awareness isn't action. I think one way to make Parliament act would be to embarass/shame (do they have any?) them into action by highlighting how France has worked to stamp it out. They could even invite a leading official to speak on national television about the work being done. Make Britain feel proud to be British and NOT French... Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/38185-fgm-topic-back-in-todays-news/#findComment-693970 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hpsaucey Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 Signed - agree with FGM it's an absolutely clear case. Hiding behind 'political correctness' or purported respect for 'cultural difference' as a reason to delay acting is cowardly. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/38185-fgm-topic-back-in-todays-news/#findComment-694008 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scribble Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 The 'cultural differences' argument holds no water at all when people from within these cultures (like the woman in this programme) are publicly exposing and condemning the practice as a step towards its eradication. In any case, IS anyone seriously arguing for inaction on this basis? Or is the very idea of the 'PC Brigade' an utter straw man in itself? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/38185-fgm-topic-back-in-todays-news/#findComment-694017 Share on other sites More sharing options...
VanessaPMR Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 Seriously unclegen..We 'interfere' in other peoples countries through a variety of channels..international aid being the most obvious one..but somehow its a bit off to try to stop them hacking away their girl children's privates... signed Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/38185-fgm-topic-back-in-todays-news/#findComment-694054 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yuuna Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 I admit, I was tempted to post a picture to show what a mutilated vulva looks like and then people could decide if they thought it was something they would be happy for their daughter to experience. In some cases newborn babies are subjected to this. The practice may have been around for millennia however that does not make it right. People used to throw disabled children in bogs. If that were still being practiced would we say 'we shouldn't interfere'? Evil is allowed to continue when we stand and do nothing. As a human, woman and mother of three daughters the thought of this practice saddens me deeply. I can't understand how humanity can have invested so much time and energy into harming one another; even our children. They may be a different culture, have different coloured skin but they are still every bit as human as the rest of us. Shame on this government for doing so little. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/38185-fgm-topic-back-in-todays-news/#findComment-694225 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fl0wer Posted November 7, 2013 Author Share Posted November 7, 2013 Hear, hear, Yuuna. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/38185-fgm-topic-back-in-todays-news/#findComment-694267 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zedd Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 signed.posting to bump this thread back up. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/38185-fgm-topic-back-in-todays-news/#findComment-694549 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 Signed x Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/38185-fgm-topic-back-in-todays-news/#findComment-694570 Share on other sites More sharing options...
srisky Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 Signed. It's a no brainer... Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/38185-fgm-topic-back-in-todays-news/#findComment-694610 Share on other sites More sharing options...
canela Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 signed. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/38185-fgm-topic-back-in-todays-news/#findComment-694622 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrsP Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 Takes less than a minute - signed. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/38185-fgm-topic-back-in-todays-news/#findComment-694763 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jollymummy Posted November 10, 2013 Share Posted November 10, 2013 I would sign this a 1000 times if I could. I have a daughter and the thought of her experiencing this brings tears to my eyes, how anyone can remotely think we should do nothing to stop this barbaric practice is unthinkable. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/38185-fgm-topic-back-in-todays-news/#findComment-694973 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chloe11 Posted November 10, 2013 Share Posted November 10, 2013 Signed. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/38185-fgm-topic-back-in-todays-news/#findComment-695040 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fl0wer Posted November 22, 2013 Author Share Posted November 22, 2013 Good news, the number of signatures passed 80,000 and recently I received an update from the relevant govt dept, which I expect all of you will get on your emails too, so will only copy and paste it here if requested. Thanks everyone for support. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/38185-fgm-topic-back-in-todays-news/#findComment-698180 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MGolden Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 Signed. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/38185-fgm-topic-back-in-todays-news/#findComment-698212 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kamath Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 Signed . I watched the video you posted and the cry of that little girl has haunted me ever since. Also well said Yunna I agree . Hope lots more sign. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/38185-fgm-topic-back-in-todays-news/#findComment-698382 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fl0wer Posted November 28, 2013 Author Share Posted November 28, 2013 Another petition if you would like to reaffirm support please sign => http://www.cityofsanctuary.org/news/2240/new-petition-support-asylum-claims-grounds-fgmThis one's en route to Theresa May. BTW an interesting website. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/38185-fgm-topic-back-in-todays-news/#findComment-699760 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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