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Big Jim Wrote:

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> >

> Out of interest, how many people have actually had

> real contact with 'Travellers'.


This reminds me of a when I went to a pub in Bethnal green not long after arriving and it had a sign on the door 'no travellers allowed' and I thought it was directed at people like me i.e. foreigners not from the UK so we went in and just kept to ourselves in the corner trying to act all 'local' thinking they wouldnt serve me if they knew I was australian.. :-$

mockney piers Wrote:

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> If I was a gippo I'd probably be most offended by

> Brad Pitt's accent in Snatch.

> Mind you if I was a passionate film goer I'd just

> be offended by Snatch. Kerbala ain't done his mojo

> no favours has it.


Funny enough (and I am not a fan of that film or Guy Ritchie's work) I thought Brad Pitt's accent was a very good approximation of the sort of accent you hear among the traveller community in Ireland (shame his Belfast accent in The Devil's Own was so poor...) Shame that Snatch generally seems to have given rise to the use of "pikey", though - I'd certainly never heard it before.

Is 'tinker' a derogatory term these days, because that is what Frank Bruno referred to Barry Mcguigan on some award ceremony some years ago.

It created a huge laugh when Mc guigan half took his coat off and looked menacingly at Bruno, Barry obviously took offence at the term 'little tinker' used to describe him.

I SPAT my dinner out laughing at this line.

Then I read everything that led up to it.

Ohhhhhhhhhhhhh you're talking about a telly!


HonaloochieB Wrote:

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> Brendan, you should have an old Bush like me. I

> can get loads of stuff on top of it.

Big Jim Wrote:

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> But I've got to say, I find all the people being

> offended on behalf of other people, rather

> amusing.

>


(tu)


I lived right next to a gypsy site once. The were ok really, kept themselves to themselves mostly. But they were always trying to sell things to me. Usually rugs, mobile phones or laptops of dubious origin ( no spare tyres I hasten to add). As I was walking past their camp one day, one of their dogs bit me on the arse! Not that that's in any way relevant but I just thought I'd share it with you. It really hurt too! :X


Am I the only one who falls about in fits of juvenile laughter when they hear the word 'spaz'? Haven't heard anyone called someone a spaz for years - it must be my childish sense of humour.

dazed&confused wrote: Am I the only one who falls about in fits of juvenile laughter when they hear the word 'spaz'? Haven't heard anyone called someone a spaz for years - it must be my childish sense of humour.


It made me laugh out loud,:) but it is so politically incorrect:-$ who cares>:D<

A Guy who is in "Britains Top 100" Earners list said to me 10 years ago.."Don't ever try to beat them at Business,does not matter if U R Richard Branson you won't!"....the Football Club where he was on The Board had just been "turned over" by them for 28 LARGE!..they,silly men,did not read the small print of the contract properly and got charged by a different footage for their work(Tarmacing,I assume) than they thought!.They soon found out to the contrary!..Had to pay as well!

I disagree with the idea that something is offensive if someone 'takes' offence, offensive can only be used to describe the intention of the behaviour surely? Offence is something that's delivered, not taken.


If you are aware that a word is considered offensive and use it nevertheless, then I agree that should be considered offensive behaviour. However, you may not simply 'take offence' at my observations because you don't agree. That's called picking a fight, and it's all a bit housing estate.


For example, is Tony LS being offensive here? He's presumably read everything everyone's written, but still persists in sterotyping a group of people as tarmacking businessmen who rip people off. However, he's clearly impressed and intends no harm - it's a compliment.


However, typecasting is bad form. I'm not a tw@t because I'm a public schoolboy, or because I work in advertising. I'm a tw@t because I'm a tw@t ;-)

jumpinjackflash Wrote:

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> My fave put down is 'Pleb' - where does it come

> from, does anyone know? Is it offensive?



I think it comes from the word Plebian - as in Spartans and Plebians. Plebians were the underclass whereas Spartans the super class.

Huguenot Wrote:

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> I disagree with the idea that something is

> offensive if someone 'takes' offence, offensive

> can only be used to describe the intention of the

> behaviour surely? Offence is something that's

> delivered, not taken.


Perhaps.. but that would also be to deny that there's any sort of crossover between 'being offensive' and 'having caused offence', which there is.


I once heard a bloke in a pub get all uptight when someone was talking about political correctness and shout "I've been saying n igger for fifty years now and I aint gonna stop sayin' n igger just cos the fackin' n iggers don't like it!"

Spartans were the citizens of Sparta which was one of the city states of ancient Greece. They were famed as being particularly tough hence our current colloquial use of the word. Nothing to do with Plebeian though.


The word Pleb comes from Plebeian which was one of the classes within ancient Roman society. It referred to the general people who were neither slaves nor servants but not part of the aristocracy either. So the sort of Working and Middle classes who made up most of society.


If I remember correctly the next ?class? up was Equestrian which basically just meant you were probably rich enough to own horses.


Come on people don?t they teach you classical history in school.

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