Lordship lane shops - service

[adonirum]

Miga - shouldn't your post read "in this case it's its not it's "

Sue - thanks for proving my opening statement " diametrically oppossed"

Fish - you come nearest but I thought I only put twelve in there with a thirteenth consisting of the over use of apostrophes!!!!

This was an actual occurence and the lady in question most definitely needed putting in her place as she was attempting, by a self-proclaimed exaltion, to reach the higher echelons of social standing frequented by myself and others of equally superior abilities, and would most certainly have immediately been exposed as an imposter.

Think: invidious; paradox; magnanimity; paraleipsis;

Who's zooming who ?

Wisely and slow; they stumble that run fast - Shakespeare (Romeo and Juliet)

The formula for complete pomposity is to be very busy with the unimportant - Edward Newton

[a fish]

A gentleman would have acted differently. And, unless you're an MMORPGer, there's no such word as 'exaltion'.

[adonirum]

Hi Fish

You are quite right, that should have read - exaltation - a "slip of the pen" due to typing in haste. I must, however, point out that a sentence should never begin with the word "and".

I refer you back to the last line of my previous post.

[a fish]

I think you should read it yourself, and this time, really read it.

I do find myself wondering if you're the pompous little man I've seen being a tedious pain in the fundament in Franklins on Lordship Lane before now, lecturing Tim about the spelling of 'medlars', and telling anyone who'd listen - and there weren't many - that the world is going to end because of the rise of the grocer's apostrophe. You know the type, short, tubby, with a round red face, a hectoring, braying manner, and a sort of desperation that the world is moving on and leaving him behind. The sort who'd not only take great delight in putting a woman down for some perceived slight that doesn't really matter, but then re-live it by telling everyone about it, using suspiciously sexist language. Twice.

Right, I'm off to do something modern, see you on the funny pages.

[adonirum]

Hi Fish

I must freely admit, I am a bit perplexed at your fit of pique. I would refer you back to my post timed at 2.46pm, whereby I congratulate you on your( and, indeed, yours alone) perceptive ability to read between the lines. However, it is incumbent upon me to point out to you that such is the constitution of the society in which we live that it is by necessity that some must preside, teach and rule, whilst others must humbly submit, learn and obey. Initially, I had you in the former grouping. Does this need amending?

In any event, this thread has its origins in the level of service (or otherwise) experienced by people in the local shops. The opening line of my first post still rings true, in which I refer to the diametrically oppossed point of view emanating from individual's own experiences. Who is to say that one is correct and another is not, it remains their interpretation of their experience.

An angry man is seldom reasonable and a reasonable man is seldom angry.

Men with clenched fists cannot shake hands

[Alan Medic]

So you would like to slap a woman because she didn't recognise you for your importance? Is that the gist of it?

[davidh]

it is so easy for some of the people on this forum to go into a shop (or maybe pretend they have`) and then slag off the shop and the people in it. small independent retailers are having a tough time these days and the snarky brigade on here should really be more careful. I do not think any shopkeeper in LL would be rude to anyone who was not being unpleasant to them. it would make no business sense at all. just pause for thought before you ruin an reputation just because you can.

[Alan Medic]

Good point davidh. Though it would take more than one negative comment months after it supposedly happened for me to give it any credit. Can one start a sentence with 'though'?

ETA more than

[tallulah71]

nothing worse than otiose verbosity ad-nauseous - I mean adonirum. Plus you are arrogant, insulting and in most peoples' opinion, wrong.

[spider69]

davidh Wrote:

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> it is so easy for some of the people on this forum

> to go into a shop (or maybe pretend they have`)

> and then slag off the shop and the people in it.

> small independent retailers are having a tough

> time these days and the snarky brigade on here

> should really be more careful. I do not think any

> shopkeeper in LL would be rude to anyone who was

> not being unpleasant to them. it would make no

> business sense at all. just pause for thought

> before you ruin an reputation just because you

> can.

Does this apply to Iceland when it was called slumlike. Or does it only apply to indy shops?

[a fish]

adonirum Wrote:

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> Hi Fish

> I must freely admit, I am a bit perplexed at your

> fit of pique. I would refer you back to my post

> timed at 2.46pm, whereby I congratulate you on

> your( and, indeed, yours alone) perceptive ability

> to read between the lines. However, it is

> incumbent upon me to point out to you that such is

> the constitution of the society in which we live

> that it is by necessity that some must preside,

> teach and rule, whilst others must humbly submit,

> learn and obey. Initially, I had you in the former

> grouping. Does this need amending?

> In any event, this thread has its origins in the

> level of service (or otherwise) experienced by

> people in the local shops. The opening line of my

> first post still rings true, in which I refer to

> the diametrically oppossed point of view emanating

> from individual's own experiences. Who is to say

> that one is correct and another is not, it remains

> their interpretation of their experience.

>

> An angry man is seldom reasonable and a reasonable

> man is seldom angry.

>

> Men with clenched fists cannot shake hands

Whatevs, girlfriend, whatevs.

[tallulah71]

@spider69 - the best thing is don't engage with davidh, like what I did...

@A Fish :)

[MrBen]

Surely first on any entrepreneurs marketing list when opening in

London is now "what's our policy for engaging with potential customers online?"

Whether it's a popular local forum, twitter or other channels. You can't just ignore it and hope it will go away. It takes time to think about and to maintain. And so many people do it badly, or half heartedly and then give up when they get some flack. It's the new norm. Embrace it.

[NewWave]

I find the post slagging off the lady in Cherner books quite objectionable.

I have also been served by her and found her helpful and friendly.

I actually find the whole tone of the post pompous and arrogant, and frankly if someone came into my store with that arrogant superior attitude I think I too would be rude to them.

[NewWave]

And I strongly agree with davidh's post.

just be grateful you have small independent retailers and not a high street full of dreadful chain stores with bland service.

[Otta]

Although a few of those would be nice too.

[East of Dulwich]

At risk of being branded a Pollyanna, I just think everyone who works in every shop around Lorship Lane I've ever been in is just lovely, lovely, lovely.

Particular mention must go to A.J. Farmer (everything you possibly need for the home, including kryptonite for shifting stubborn Supermen), Pretty Traditional, both Shaun's ? great for home maintenance tips ? and Dulwich DIY, the beautiful young things of Blackbird Bakery, Rye Books (of course), Mon P'tit Choux for the friendlisest latte and Toasted where the staff greet me like a long lost friend and let me carrying on tasting wines I can't afford, Cheese Block, SMBS, and let us not forget the carefully compact Dulwich Supermarket, which contains as many lines as Sainsbury's within less square meterage than needed for three car parking spaces.

None of these places will have given their staff "customer service" training. What you get instead is good, honest, human contact, sometimes with a smile, sometimes wryly laconic, always individual and genuine.

[giggirl]

EoD you're a breath of fresh air.

[Sue]

adonirum Wrote:

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> Sue - thanks for proving my opening statement "

> diametrically oppossed"

xxxxxx

Is that something to do with a possum?

[Sue]

Otta Wrote:

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> Although a few of those would be nice too.

xxxxxx

No they wouldn't :)

Which "dreadful chain stores with bland service" did you have in mind to further ruin the character of Lordship Lane?

[Otta]

I wasn't really after dreadful and bland Sue, but a mixture of indie and good chains is ideal imo. Indie doesn't necessarily mean better, and there are things that a chain would sell cheaper and better. I'm not going to say what though because I don't want to be accused of slating a particular business.

Personally though I don't think all chains are evil.

[adonirum]

a fish Wrote:

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> I think you should read it yourself, and this

> time, really read it.

>

> I do find myself wondering if you're the pompous

> little man I've seen being a tedious pain in the

> fundament in Franklins on Lordship Lane before

> now, lecturing Tim about the spelling of

> 'medlars', and telling anyone who'd listen - and

> there weren't many - that the world is going to

> end because of the rise of the grocer's

> apostrophe. You know the type, short, tubby, with

> a round red face, a hectoring, braying manner, and

> a sort of desperation that the world is moving on

> and leaving him behind. The sort who'd not only

> take great delight in putting a woman down for

> some perceived slight that doesn't really matter,

> but then re-live it by telling everyone about it,

> using suspiciously sexist language. Twice.

>

> Right, I'm off to do something modern, see you on

> the funny pages

Hi Fish Just back from a W/E break at my country gaff whereby I decided not to take any form of communication equipment with me.

Reference your quoted post GOOD HEAVENS ABOVE. NO NO AND THRICE NO. I would never go there. I can ,however, be found frequenting a better class of establishment off of Pall Mall and St. James' Street, such as The Royal Oversees League or The RAC Club. See you there ? Nah I don't think so.

[DaveR]

"I can ,however, be found frequenting a better class of establishment off of Pall Mall and St. James' Street, such as The Royal Oversees League or The RAC Club. See you there ? Nah I don't think so."

Curiously, your diction brings to mind establishments "off of" the Old Kent Road (and nowt wrong with that).

[adonirum]

davidh Wrote:

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> it is so easy for some of the people on this forum

> to go into a shop (or maybe pretend they have`)

> and then slag off the shop and the people in it.

> small independent retailers are having a tough

> time these days and the snarky brigade on here

> should really be more careful. I do not think any

> shopkeeper in LL would be rude to anyone who was

> not being unpleasant to them. it would make no

> business sense at all. just pause for thought

> before you ruin an reputation just because you

> can.

On a very serious note, having indulged in a bit of sport on here and particularly having reeled in "fish" (see what I did there), this most definitely was not my motive or intention. I related my experience on here to point out as I stated the diametrically opposed points of view and experiences of different people, after this particular business received creditable criticism on here. Further, and perhaps the most bizarre aspect of my experience, I was referred to this particular shop by my sister who had received good service from the gentleman in there. To quote tallulah71 "most people's opinion you are wrong" it may interest you, tallulah71, that that was the initial response of my sister when I related my experience to her. My original posting regarding this issue remains an honest and truthful account of what transpired.

[adonirum]

DaveR

This is the second time I've been "busted" by you, and there's nowt wrong wiv that, John, know wot r mean.

Genuine congrats.