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> ...having indulged in a bit of sport...


Sport? Using the language of violence against women to make a funny? Hooting and braying sad claims to be some sort of cultural ?bermensch, albeit written like English is a second language? Jesus, you may not be the annoying little buffoon I referred to previously, but you certainly act like him, whether you?re a troll or not, and I have a feeling most here find you tedious, unfunny and irrelevant. Your sister has my sympathies.

Fish

You need to get a grip. Firstly, I have never used the language of violence against women. On one of your previous posts you advised me to "go read it really read it" with reference to one of my posts. You need to do likewise and read my original post properly and not put your own unique interpretation on it. I clearly refer to a" verbal altercation" if you will, an occurrence that was instigated by said lady, and for no earthly reason, other than her what might be called prejudices and, in any event certainly pre-conceived ideas, regarding the way an individual dressed. Secondly, I would refer you to your own posts on this thread -page 1 on 29th Oct @12.55 -page 2 @06.48 - and also page 4 on 1st Nov @ 04.49 and you have the audacity to vilify me for promulgating my personal experience. Have you not yet realised that in referring to "slapdown", describing myself as "extremely articulate and erudite", and then deliberately submitting something to the contrary, I have shown how people are/can be, in that , by admirably leaping to the defence of this individual,they then take precisely the course of action they are ridiculing me for. I do not seek to show up any individual during my research, but you seem to have taken this personally. I refer to previous in this thread, whereby at one stage I thought you had it. This is now said in all sincerity, try reading "Status Anxiety" by Dr. Alain de Button, this may aid you in understanding and indeed give you some insight into your own traits and characteristics. I wish you all the best and all that you would wish for yourself. Adonirum

adonirum Wrote:

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> Fish

> You need to get a grip. Firstly, I have never used

> the language of violence against women. On one of

> your previous posts you advised me to "go read it

> really read it" with reference to one of my posts.

> You need to do likewise and read my original post

> properly and not put your own unique

> interpretation on it. I clearly refer to a" verbal

> altercation" if you will, an occurrence that was

> instigated by said lady, and for no earthly

> reason, other than her what might be called

> prejudices and, in any event certainly

> pre-conceived ideas, regarding the way an

> individual dressed. Secondly, I would refer you to

> your own posts on this thread -page 1 on 29th Oct

> @12.55 -page 2 @06.48 - and also page 4 on 1st

> Nov @ 04.49 and you have the audacity to vilify me

> for promulgating my personal experience. Have you

> not yet realised that in referring to "slapdown",

> describing myself as "extremely articulate and

> erudite", and then deliberately submitting

> something to the contrary, I have shown how people

> are/can be, in that , by admirably leaping to the

> defence of this individual,they then take

> precisely the course of action they are ridiculing

> me for. I do not seek to show up any individual

> during my research, but you seem to have taken

> this personally. I refer to previous in this

> thread, whereby at one stage I thought you had it.

> This is now said in all sincerity, try reading

> "Status Anxiety" by Dr. Alain de Button, this may

> aid you in understanding and indeed give you some

> insight into your own traits and characteristics.

> I wish you all the best and all that you would

> wish for yourself. Adonirum


Whatevs, girlfriend, whatevs.

Oh dear, that response would appear to indicate some embarrassment or feelings of humiliation. This was not, nor ever has been, my intention. I suspect the E.D.Forum community will be able to draw their own learned conclusions from this exchange.For my part, this will be my last post on this thread, but I will once again re-iterate that the experience that I have wrote about is an honest, truthful and accurate account of what transpired in Chener books on that particular day.

Actually, the Club premises in Pall Mall were the Club premises of the Royal Automobile Club (i.e. group of members) - but now you can be an RAC member (I think) without being a member of the Pall Mall Club. So the RAC Club is the club premises (of old) of the Royal Automobile Club - indeed you may need to say RAC Club to differentiate it from the motorists assist organisation only.


This is the problem with the word Club here doing two jobs. A Club being both a specific posh place to go open only to members, as well as a membership group (with no implied location or posh premises).

Penguin68 Wrote:

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> Actually, the Club premises in Pall Mall were the

> Club premises of the Royal Automobile Club (i.e.

> group of members) - but now you can be an RAC

> member (I think) without being a member of the

> Pall Mall Club. So the RAC Club is the club

> premises (of old) of the Royal Automobile Club -

> indeed you may need to say RAC Club to

> differentiate it from the motorists assist

> organisation only.

>

> This is the problem with the word Club here doing

> two jobs. A Club being both a specific posh place

> to go open only to members, as well as a

> membership group (with no implied location or posh

> premises).


Remind me to invite you to the next dinner party I host.

On a more general point linked to the thread's title - one problem causing some of the differences are that individual expectations of service may well be different - an attentive salesperson (can I help you? do you want to see this is different colours/ sizes?) for some may be an intrusive salesperson to others - a cheery greeting for some 'What can I get you, luv?" may be an offensive remark to others (last week Newsnight hosted a debate with women who found the use of 'luv' or similar hostile or patronising if said by men). Some take a business-like attitude as cold. Sometimes humerous or jocular remarks intended become aggressive or rude remarks when heard.


Whilst clearly there are some marks of poor service which are poor for everyone (Ryanair springs to mind here) much else is subjective.


I have found some service in LL at times off-hand - or simply badly managed, but mostly it is as one might expect for the type of outlet concerned. And normally a polite request gets a polite response.


In 25 years I have had cause to cut only two outlets from my shopping/ eating (actually eating) lists, across

the whole of Dulwich, East and West Dulwich for poor or badly managed service. And supplier incompetence, rather than malice, lay behind both decisions. [i have to say I have given second chances to rather more, but these are back on my lists of possible places to go/ use].


There are places which sell things I don't want, of course, but my not using them reflects their product ranges, not their service quality.

unlurked Wrote:

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> Don't forget Paine & Hunter for good service, plus

> the White Horse PH. Bad service at Bishop.


I have alsways thought the bar service at the Bishop to be very efficient. On the rare occaision I'm allowed out.

Mick Mac Wrote:

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> unlurked Wrote:

> --------------------------------------------------

> -----

> > Don't forget Paine & Hunter for good service,

> plus

> > the White Horse PH. Bad service at Bishop.

>

> I have alsways thought the bar service at the

> Bishop to be very efficient. On the rare occaision

> I'm allowed out.


What? Out of the Bishop I presume

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