Adrian Chiles/ casual racism

[El Pibe]

Lol maxxi, consider yourself reported you racialanist.

Yeah, I thought motd 2 was the poorer for losing him too.

[*Bob*]

It's all very confusing.

One minute he's doing daytime financial news on 'Working Lunch' and the suddenly, football. What next.. Holby?

I thought he was good on WL. Whether he's any good at football, I cannot say. It's such a moronic pursuit you might as well sit a lemon in the pundit chair with a face painted on it.

[Mick Mac]

Oh Bob. You dont like football, this is sad news indeed.

[*Bob*]

What with my deep passion for golf, I just can't find the time for anything else. Sorry, Mick.

[Mick Mac]

Understood.

[*Bob*]

I can't begin to understand the sheer idiocy of coming back year after year at the start of the season, wagging your tail like an imbecilic puppy - for exactly the same dose of the same old shit as you saw last year. And the year before. It beggar's belief.

Some of them can't even hold a tune.. Oh, hang on, I'm getting a bit mixed-up..

[Mick Mac]

That was all looking far too sensible until the punchline.

[????]

Chiles just called Capello a dour Italian, racist stereotyping right there

[Otta]

Scotland are suing him, as they have exclusive rights to dourness.

[maxxi]

Isn't there a power station there?

[StraferJack]

oh well played max

[Mick Mac]

Feed the monkey.

You can't say that Roy.

[malumbu]

Thought it was quite an amusing tale, and I doubt if anyone in the England dressing room was thinking that Woy (there is me being insensitive about people with lisps) was making a racist remark about a black player. Do people still use 'monkey' as an insult? (apart from that throwback caught on camera at Chelski (whoops an insensitive anti-Russian remark))

Adrian was not being racist either, and like him or not he certainly is far more successful than any one posting here. Contrast comments on Have I got News for You the other day ("over here, taking our jobs") which was clearly amusing/tongue in cheek, and of course that's all fine as we understand.

I also enjoy a good anti-English stereotype ie we all have crooked teeth, deeply reserved and drink gallons of tea.

What I was trying to get out of this thread was an examinatiof our own, and society's casual racism (or unintended/insensitive comments/stereotypes etc.). I've said things in the past that I shudder about now, but were perfectly innocent at the time. Even now I may say "how long have you been over here", rather than more subtly asking about background, purely because I am interested in other cultures etc. Had a great chat with a Romanian cabbie, who is doing is accountacy exams as his were not recognised in the UK, but meanwhle has to drive mini cabs to pay for all of this. He get's fed up when he is considered to be an asylum seeker or low skill economic migrant.

And finally apologies for my comment about cockney winkers. You are not all loud mouthed geezers wearing bright clothes, ducking and diving, on the make, unable to support your local football team, and with the inability to pronounce your consonants. Well not all of you.

And Adrian and I are not thick Brummies. Well not Brummies anyway. That Birminum to you cockerneys.

[Loz]

Mick Mac Wrote:

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> Feed the monkey.

>

> You can't say that Roy.

You have to see in the context of the joke that accompanied the comment.

Mind you, it does show that someone in the England dressing room is gunning for Hodgeson. Who is the mole?

[Mason]

What is racist? Is it a comment bout a slander about colour, belief and the discrimination of observations of what is different to the norm.

It is hard to define how a person can be racist today, because we see that people from other countries are just migrant economic bloodsuckers, and this time of hardship, this undermines our thoughts these people who work for less pay and are willing to do the work and the extra hours.

I feel it is more of a threat that people who are willing to work harder to make something of themselves that is a threat that makes racism more prevalent because it is a danger to the lazier attitudes that we have been grown up with and become accustomed too. our thoughts

[Mick Mac]

Loz Wrote:

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> Mick Mac Wrote:

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> > Feed the monkey.

> >

> > You can't say that Roy.

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> You have to see in the context of the joke that

> accompanied the comment.

>

> Mind you, it does show that someone in the England

> dressing room is gunning for Hodgeson. Who is the

> mole?

In my original post I was just stirring it tbh.

However now I have heard the joke and the context I think he was an absolute fool to use that analogy. Given some people's sensitivities to use of the word monkey he should have thought twice.

[Alan Medic]

In this joke the monkey is the clever one. The only people who might be offended are those who relate monkey's to black people (I suppose). Whoever reported this to the Sun is a fool. As for Roy telling the joke, it wouldn't have been up there with what I'd imagined goes on in a dressing room at HT.

[Mick Mac]

Alan Medic Wrote:

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> In this joke the monkey is the clever one. The

> only people who might be offended are those who

> relate monkey's to black people

the awful monkey chants have established the word monkey as one to steer clear of or risk making a comment that could be offensive even if there is no intention to do so, as happened here.

[malumbu]

So after singing the praises of Catford/Forest Hill borders on another thread, this gent comes over to pick up the old tiles that I sold on e-bay (some had gone through the 'for sale' ad on this site.)

I tell him that the tiles had been removed from the porch of my old flat, by the builder (many moons ago) who had damaged some (ie they were no longer a complete set). And the gent asks "oh what nationality were they"

I reply "that is an inappropriate comment"

He still insists on telling me his Punjabi builders story, where the builders removed and smashed up some Victorian fireplaces. (I was expecting him to say something about 'Poles, Pikeys or Roma').

What the flip the nationality was mentioned I don't know. Was he expecting me to say "oh those Punjabis, clearly don't appreciate heritage, they will be smashing up the Golden Temple next".

Oh and Roy's story was in deed racist after all. He was inferring that American astronauts are less intelligent than primates, so this was an anti-American comment (he will be burning the flag next). Actually come to think of it it may be a factual comment, certainly I am sure that most Americans are more stupid than monkeys. For one monkeys don's justify the Second Amendment.

[Loz]

malumbu Wrote:

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> Oh and Roy's story was in deed racist after all. He was inferring that American astronauts are less

> intelligent than primates, so this was an anti-American comment (he will be burning the flag

> next). Actually come to think of it it may be a factual comment, certainly I am sure that most

> Americans are more stupid than monkeys.

Why is it that people who want to come across as anti-racist still manage to write stuff like this?

[StraferJack]

Malumbu's posts this evening have... An unusual tone to them

[giggirl]

"Unusual" like Withnail?