Woman stabbed in Peckham last night (Lounged)

[jumpinjourno]

What on earth is going on and how do we tackle this.

Woman in the prime of her life stabbed to death around 11pm last night in Bellenden Road area...

Somebody must have been up and around about that time - lets pull together and root these people out once and for all...

Southwark News has launched its Stop a Stabbing campaign and calls on everybody to do their bit!

[Title edited to be less dramatic - The Administrator]

[Fuschia]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/7484692.stm

[bon3yard]

We had to take a detour around Old Kent Road yesterday because a shopkeeper had been stabbed to death in a row with a customer. Madness.

[PeckhamRose]

Is the shopkeeper the same person as the 20 yr old woman in Bellenden referred to in the article? Or is that a separate one?

bon3yard Wrote:

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> We had to take a detour around Old Kent Road

> yesterday because a shopkeeper had been stabbed to

> death in a row with a customer. Madness.

[jumpinjackflash]

it's separate

[Fuschia]

http://ukpress.google.com/article/ALeqM5hP_yjA_ORUNLOnUJK1XzmzIP7WPw

[TJS]

This is getting really bad.....i think i will be moving out of ED next year....

[Moos]

Where will you go, TJS? At the risk of sounding sarcastic - which is not my intention - I think you'll find it harder to escape crime than you might wish.

[PeckhamRose]

Sorry, how do "we" do that?

Approach all kids and ask them if they have a knife?

Storm the school and parliament gates and demand they educate and bring up the kids that the kids' parents can't manage to do because of their own (the parents') shortcomings?

All I can do is be friendly to the youngsters on my estate and listen to them if they have problems.

The kids carrying knives are not One sort of person.

jumpinjourno Wrote:

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> What on earth is going on and how do we tackle

> this.

>

> Woman in the prime of her life stabbed to death

> around 11pm last night in Bellenden Road area...

>

> Somebody must have been up and around about that

> time - lets pull together and root these people

> out once and for all...

>

> Southwark News has launched its Stop a Stabbing

> campaign and calls on everybody to do their bit!

>

> [Title edited to be less dramatic - The

> Administrator]

[AllforNun]

More to the OKR stabbing than meets eye. It been closed off for 2 days now and there are some intersting plain clothes units moving around the place,.

[PeckhamRose]

Define "interesting", do.

AllforNun Wrote:

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> More to the OKR stabbing than meets eye. It been

> closed off for 2 days now and there are some

> intersting plain clothes units moving around the

> place,.

[Peckhamgatecrasher]

How do we tackle this you ask? I don't know, but I feel strongly that we should all consider this extract from John Donne's Meditation XVII:

No man is an island, entire of itself; every man is a piece of the continent, a part of the main. If a clod be washed away by the sea, Europe is the less, as well as if a promontory were, as well as if a manor of thy friend's or of thine own were: any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind ...

I think too often we are insular and selfish and only consider our own space and possessions and disregard the worth of other people. [sorry, this is a bit incoherent but I hope you get the drift.]

[NatashaD]

Crikey, there's me thinking that that area was like a village. :(

[ratty]

My wife just phoned to tell me of this awful occurrence last night. We too are thinking of leaving ED and London because we don't want our little boy growing up round here. Is it easy to escape this sort of crime? Yes! It does not often happen in either Portsmouth, where I am from or Lancaster where my wife is from.

[TJS]

I agree Ratty.....easy to escapte move outside the m25 and commute in for work / days out...and that is it...and without a doubt i will be doing that by this time next year!

[Keef]

Hi Spangles30

[AllforNun]

"Portsmouth is a lovely city and there is not that much crime, but the drugs problem is massive.

"The police are losing the battle against drugs. They don't have a grip on the situation." BBC

[jocelyn]

Yes I had to take a back street cycle route around OKR today too and consequently got lost - there were loads of forensic people around and a massive white police investigation truck.

Although the weird thing was as I cycled down into a little alley into one of the estates a group of black teenagers shouted out to me: "Hey look at that white girl! How funny is it that she has to cycle round these black man estates cos of the road closure." Did not really know what to think about that but just smiled at them and carried on...

[snoozequeen1]

jumpinjourno Wrote:

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> What on earth is going on and how do we tackle

> this.

>

Stop buying cocaine

Stop buying cannabis

Stop buying tamazepam and modafanil (stolen from the NHS) for "recreational use"

Stop tolerating the use of drugs all around us

Ostracise drugs sellers and optional drug users

That might help.

[Ladygooner]

Lets not get this problem out of proportion until we know the reasons behind these stabbings. They may not just be random acts of violence - lets wait and hear the facts.

[ratty]

AllforNun Wrote:

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> "Portsmouth is a lovely city and there is not that

> much crime, but the drugs problem is massive.

>

> "The police are losing the battle against drugs.

> They don't have a grip on the situation." BBC

That's no problem - I made a fortune out of it when I lived there! :)

Agreed there is a lot of smack in Pompey, but give me an honest smack head over a crack head any day of the week!!!

[Ted Max]

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Lets not get this problem out of proportion until we know the reasons behind these stabbings. They may not just be random acts of violence - lets wait and hear the facts.

Correct, LadyGooner. BBC Radio has just reported the Bellenden Road stabbing was the result of an argument between a man and a woman who had been drinking together for much of the day.

Ian Blair has just given a press conference in which he said knife murders in the first six months of this year are at the same level as last year.

The impression of knife crime spiralling out of control is, I fear, only fuelled by "campaigns" such as JumpinJourno's - which may be good if they do lead to a more awareness of the dangers of carrying knives. But less good if it leads to the sort of "I'm quitting this area for good" fear of crime that only serves to, do what? Not much, as far as I can see.

[KoolBananas]

ratty Wrote:

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> My wife just phoned to tell me of this awful

> occurrence last night. We too are thinking of

> leaving ED and London because we don't want our

> little boy growing up round here. Is it easy to

> escape this sort of crime? Yes! It does not often

> happen in either Portsmouth, where I am from or

> Lancaster where my wife is from.

"Does not happen often" but it DOES happen. A bit of a pointless comment don't you think?

[NatashaD]

Hello Keef.>:D<

I would not leave this area because of the 'crime', and I do not fear for my children growing up in London. In fact, I would rather they grow up in London than a provincial town. I embrace the multi-culturalism, and diverse activities and cultural events.

Personally, I would not be wandering around the Bellenden Rd area at 11PM on my own (was she on her own?). I would probably be OK with Lordship lane at that time as it is still relatively busy, but even so I would be very cautious.

[BJL]

snoozequeen1 Wrote:

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> jumpinjourno Wrote:

> --------------------------------------------------

> -----

> > What on earth is going on and how do we tackle

> > this.

> >

> Stop buying cocaine

>

> Stop buying cannabis

>

> Stop buying tamazepam and modafanil (stolen from

> the NHS) for "recreational use"

>

> Stop tolerating the use of drugs all around us

>

> Ostracise drugs sellers and optional drug users

>

> That might help.

Ted Max Wrote:

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> BBC Radio has just reported

> the Bellenden Road stabbing was the result of an

> argument between a man and a woman who had been

> drinking together for much of the day.

Snoozequeen1: what are your views on alcohol?