Gigs / Local Bands

[miga]

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[tommo]

Can't get this right at all - went to see this lot at The Hob last night but they weren't on despite being advertised on The Hob web site, however there was a 'jam' on at the Railwsay Telegraph so it wasn't exactly a wasted journey but it was a bit of a hit and miss 'jam' though some good musicians there

http://thehobforesthill.co.uk/

[lousmith]

Andy Hank Dogs Allen has been hosting an acoustic night in and around these parts for twenty years. On a good night the music is exceptional. It looks like a good line-up tonight. https://www.facebook.com/andy.allan.1232

[tommo]

yeah I heard about it - but someone said he charges people to play - and referred to him as 'the twat in the hat' and I don't agree with charging musicians to play so I won't be going

but each to his own - enjoy

[NewWave]

The HOB do sometimes have some really good indie bands, Also Canvas and Cream also in Forest Hill on London road has occasional gigs and open Mic nights. You can subscribe to a monthly newsletter.

Likewise The Sylvan Post has occasional gigs.

Theres a pub called The Railway Tavern (think thats the name-its in Forest Hill) where they do live music, mainly Soul_alexander O'Neil has gigged there a few times, but I believe you have to book.

Hope this helps.

[NewWave]

Correction! Its the Railway Telegraph that I believe you've already discovered

[Earl Aelfheah]

Breaking news..... This ain't Camden.

[Sue]

tommo Wrote:

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> yeah I heard about it - but someone said he

> charges people to play

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I'd be absolutely amazed if he charged anybody to play.

I've heard some excellent stuff at some of Hankdog's nights in the past.

[GroveLaneMan]

The Ivy House over on Stanley Rd is trying to set something up for local bands ! Otherwise I go to the Electricin Brixton ( London Grammar in October ) or the Academy ( Soundgarden next week ) . The overground will have you at the Garage in Islington in half an hour ! As far as East Dulwich is concerned its slowly beginning to happen with a lot of young bands looking for gigs !

[Sue]

GroveLaneMan Wrote:

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> The Ivy House over on Stanley Rd is trying to set

> something up for local bands !

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The Ivy House is on Stuart Road, not Stanley Road!

http://www.ivyhousenunhead.com/

As far as young bands looking for gigs in East Dulwich goes - great. But there are very few suitable venues for them, let alone a demographic which lends itself to an audience for those gigs (preponderance of parents with young children).

The Ivy House is an iconic pub with a great musical heritage, a purpose built stage, proper lighting and a great new sound system. It used to be a "destination venue" for music, and hopefully it will be again, fingers crossed.

[Earl Aelfheah]

The castle has some occasional cover bands. Is a great space for live music with a little stage at the back. Shame they don't have better bands. Anyone looking to set something up, I would recommend checking it out as a possible location.

[Sue]

rahrahrah Wrote:

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> The castle has some occasional cover bands. Is a

> great space for live music with a little stage at

> the back. Shame they don't have better bands.

> Anyone looking to set something up, I would

> recommend checking it out as a possible location.

xxxxxx

They weren't keen when we tried. If memory serves, they said they had enough customers without us bringing more people down to clog up the bar, or words to that effect :(

Maybe the situation might be different Monday to Thursday though.

[Jeremy]

The problem is that pub punters don't want to hear bands playing originals - especially if it's anything vaguely edgy/heavy/different. It would be a guaranteed way to empty the place. If a pub does get a band in, it will probably be covers, safe generic bluesy type stuff, or maybe acoustic.

Perhaps we'll see some live music start up in Peckham, where there seems to be a new, younger demographic. ED is firmly a family area now, very few 16-25 year olds around.

Ivy House is a nice place (although not been there since the re-opening) but the obscure location means it is destined to be more of a local than a destination.

[Sue]

Jeremy Wrote:

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> Ivy House is a nice place (although not been there

> since the re-opening) but the obscure location

> means it is destined to be more of a local than a

> destination.

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It was a destination music venue in its "glory days".

And the Goose had three sell-out music gigs there in the year before it closed, plus we have another one this month which has sold out.

A glance at the ticket list for that forthcoming night shows bookings from all over South London, not just SE15 and SE22, plus some from other places.

We've had people come from as far afield as Nottingham and Brighton in the past to see particular artists, and once somebody came over specially from Ireland!

An obscure location is no hindrance to people travelling to it to see bands, provided the band has fans - or also if the venue/promoter get a reputation for putting on good nights.

ETA: Of course, there's a difference between a band having a ticketed gig in a separate space, and a band playing in the main bar. In the latter, I agree, the music has usually got to be quite "safe".

[Jah Lush]

lousmith Wrote:

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> If you like it real, raw and raucous, A Fat White

> Family are playing The Queen's Head, Brixton.on

> Friday. Legends in the making.

> http://www.facebook.com/FatWhiteFamily?ref=hl

> I am biased, but.......they are the most exciting

> live band bar none.

Totally agree. The best young live band I've seen in years and I'll be there. By the way it's on Saturday, Lou, not Friday.

[Jeremy]

Sue - great that things are going well for Ivy House and the Goose, I'm sure if established acts have loyal followings people will make the effort. But I stick with my opinion that it's an awkward location for a venue... especially for people like me playing in tin-pot bands who have to beg their mates to come along!

[Kingy]

We did a great gig in the Castle the other month, but they don't really have the budget for 'gigs' they have some very average irish cover performers in there once a month on a sunday (1st ?) - the acoustics in there are great but they pay a lot for sports/sky tv for the regulars so you have to fit in around it - shame

The Ivy House will have to lower their prices to get people in, I'm not that price sensitive myself but nearly everybody I know that props up bars is and Hank Dog certainly did charge performers back at the Nun's Head when he was there - I think it was ?5 for audience and ?3 for players

[tommo]

what obscure tin-pot band do you play in then Jeremy ? I will try to get along to a gig if you let me know when you are playing

[Jeremy]

tommo Wrote:

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> what obscure tin-pot band do you play in then

> Jeremy ? I will try to get along to a gig if you

> let me know when you are playing

Zonderlings

https://soundcloud.com/#zonderlings

Thanks, I will give you a shout if we actually get round to booking some more gigs!

[tommo]

I think you've put the wrong link up there - that's the same one as someone put up earlier

a simple google has found this

https://soundcloud.com/#zonderlings

which is probably the right one as there is a Jeremy in the band

[Sue]

Kingy Wrote:

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> The Ivy House will have to lower their prices to

> get people in, I'm not that price sensitive myself

> but nearly everybody I know that props up bars is

> and Hank Dog certainly did charge performers back

> at the Nun's Head when he was there - I think it

> was ?5 for audience and ?3 for players

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Re Hankdog, that's not charging people to perform, it's charging them entry to the gig. And a reduced rate entry in recognition of the fact that they are performing.

As a large proportion of his audience were performers, that's fair enough. People running open mic nights all do that, to the best of my knowledge. The pub weren't paying him to put the night on, so how else is he going to cover his costs?

We used to do that at our club nights when we started. We gave floorsingers a concession. We don't any more - they are still happy to come and sing. We have to cover the headliner's fee.

Re The Ivy House, why would they have to "lower their prices to get people in"? What prices?

Our current concert ticket prices vary depending on who the headliner is, and for our Ivy House concert in September they were ?12 advance (?8 concessions). We have sold out and in fact are looking to rebook the headliners for 2014 because we had so many disappointed people wanting seats.

Far from looking to "lower our prices", in some cases we think we have to raise them. You have to cover the headliner's fee, for goodness' sake!

Jeremy, I sympathise, but yes it's hard when you start out. You have to put yourself about I guess and slowly build up a fan base.

We had somebody come to sing at our Singaround on Sunday who had come up specially from Pulborough in West Sussex. He was really excellent and we will give him a "proper" gig at some point. Then more people will hear him and look out for his name in future - and so it goes .....

[Kingy]

lower the beer prices - you really really are in argumentative mode Sue (just for a change :-))- the goose is not the ivy house - the goose is the goose

people are not going to be happy paying those beer prices on top of an entry fee - if it was free entertainment and the pub were paying the act then people wouldn't mind paying a premium on the beer prices but it's a back street boozer and it has high street prices at the moment

and I beg to differ with your reasoning of not charging people to play - it's wrong full stop

[Jeremy]

Just looked at the website... ?3.90 for Becks vier, a couple of bitters at around ?3.50, and a load of microbrew stuff at closer to the ?5 mark. i.e. London prices.

[Sue]

Kingy Wrote:

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> lower the beer prices - you really really are in

> argumentative mode Sue (just for a change :-))-

> the goose is not the ivy house - the goose is the

> goose

> people are not going to be happy paying those beer

> prices on top of an entry fee - if it was free

> entertainment and the pub were paying the act then

> people wouldn't mind paying a premium on the beer

> prices but it's a back street boozer and it has

> high street prices at the moment

>

> and I beg to differ with your reasoning of not

> charging p

eople to play - it's wrong full stop

Xxxxxt

As already pointed out to you on another thread the Ivy House has some excellent ales at under three quid a pint. How cheap do you want it?!

Edited to remove strange layout (because original post was made on my phone :)) )

[Kingy]

?4.90 for a lager the other day - I can get good german/austrian beer for ?4.50 a pint on LL - each to his own - they aren't going to attract 'drinkers' at those prices , those who spent ?150-?200 pw on booze - the local tradesmen who meet up for session beers etc - as I said I am not the one who is price sensitive - most of the people I know are