Bin lorry overturned, Townley Road

[ed_pete]

I wonder how this happened?

Recovery truck arrived.

[ontheRye]

I’ve come off my pushbike on that corner turning in from ED Grove, it can be quite fast if there’s no oncoming traffic, but a bin lorry………….

[intexasatthe moment]

How indeed!

[Scottfield]

It is very neatly on the footpath. Hats off to the driver for excellent parking.

[Sue]

😮😮😮

I hope nobody was hurt?

[march46]

It’s terrifying thinking how many people are usually walking along that pavement to school. Really hope no one was hurt. 

[se22]

Fortunately it's school holidays. Depending what time of day it happened there could have been lots of children around.

[ed_pete]

I'm guessing it must have been early. I passed about 7:30 and there was no signs of police or ambulance only the recovery truck. 

My guess is that the bin lorry was approaching from the JAGS direction, heading down the hill, turned right, overcooked it and tipped. 

Hopefully no one was seriously injured though I imagine those in the lorry must been hurt.

[Sue]

  On 11/04/2025 at 07:57, ed_pete said:

I'm guessing it must have been early. I passed about 7:30 and there was no signs of police or ambulance only the recovery truck. 

My guess is that the bin lorry was approaching from the JAGS direction, heading down the hill, turned right, overcooked it and tipped. 

Hopefully no one was seriously injured though I imagine those in the lorry must been hurt.

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At least it can't/shouldn't have been going very fast, if it was turning a corner?

[march46]

I’m not sure that would have been any consolation had anyone have been on the pavement at the time it tipped. 

[Sue]

  On 11/04/2025 at 08:21, march46 said:

I’m not sure that would have been any consolation had anyone have been on the pavement at the time it tipped. 

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No, I completely agree, I was thinking of the guys in it.

[Spartacus]

This is a bit of a rubbish thread 😅

[i*Rate]

This happened to my car one Sunday morning, some years ago'; it was a gang of kids going around having fun, They've probably grown up now and been working out! 

[march46]

It’s good to see local councillors are taking this crash seriously, hopefully the police will also. The tyres marks left on the road suggest speed could have been a factor.
https://www.facebook.com/share/p/1FaPQjGu7x/?mibextid=wwXIfr

[Sue]

  On 11/04/2025 at 23:22, march46 said:

It’s good to see local councillors are taking this crash seriously, hopefully the police will also. The tyres marks left on the road suggest speed could have been a factor.
https://www.facebook.com/share/p/1FaPQjGu7x/?mibextid=wwXIfr

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Crikey, that's bad.

Yes, from the photo it looks like it skidded.

A private operator apparently, so not Veolia.

No information as to whether anybody was hurt, but unless there are mitigating circumstances (eg the driver suffered a sudden health incident or the brakes failed, though it shouldn't have been going fast enough to need the brakes at that point, surely) it looks like a prosecution for a driving offence is likely?

Do vehicles like this have some kind of technology which retains the speed history etc?

Edited April 12 by Sue

[Rockets]

Good grief that could have been awful and lets hope no-one in the vehicle was injured either. Interesting use of "not operated by the council" in the councillor post. The council outsources collection doesn't it so doesn't actually operate any bin lorries any more? 

[Sue]

  On 12/04/2025 at 08:47, Rockets said:

Good grief that could have been awful and lets hope no-one in the vehicle was injured either. Interesting use of "not operated by the council" in the councillor post. The council outsources collection doesn't it so doesn't actually operate any bin lorries any more? 

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Oh yes, you're right.

So it could have been a Veolia lorry 

[Penguin68]

The two most likely reasons for over-turning would either be  speed or loading related (possibly both). A burst tyre at just the wrong time (during a turn) might also cause this, but I think these lorries have doubled-up tyres. [The photo shows the tyres intact, so it won't be that] The other main reason for large vehicles over-turning (caught by wind) is unlikely on this occasion.

Edited April 12 by Penguin68

[christgill]

"This vehicle was not operated by the council and we are liaising with Helen Hayes MP and the police to find out who the operators are and how the crash occurred."

If the vehicle was either "Council owned" or "Veolia owned" I would hope that they wouldn't need to rely on either Helen Hayes or the police to find out who the operators are!

[Twoddle]

  On 11/04/2025 at 11:08, Spartacus said:

This is a bit of a rubbish thread 😅

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It's wheelie bin not that bad tbh.

I'll get me coat.

[Jenijenjen]

  On 12/04/2025 at 22:58, christgill said:

"This vehicle was not operated by the council and we are liaising with Helen Hayes MP and the police to find out who the operators are and how the crash occurred."

If the vehicle was either "Council owned" or "Veolia owned" I would hope that they wouldn't need to rely on either Helen Hayes or the police to find out who the operators are!

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There are other bin lorry operators roaming the area who collect refuse from private businesses.

[Dogkennelhillbilly]

  On 13/04/2025 at 00:10, Twoddle said:

It's wheelie bin not that bad tbh.

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Hard to see what would make a lorry tip in the midden of the road like that, but I refuse to slag anyone off until the full facts are known.

[Rockets]

Local accident investigators Dulwich Roads are claiming it was a Veolia bin lorry...

https://x.com/DulwichRoads/status/1910711493273788469?t=TcPz_3Wvvv5gAk6PQg1rBA&s=19

Edited April 13 by Rockets

[Sue]

  On 13/04/2025 at 08:10, Rockets said:

Local accident investigators Dulwich Roads are claiming it was a Veolia bin lorry...

https://x.com/DulwichRoads/status/1910711493273788469?t=TcPz_3Wvvv5gAk6PQg1rBA&s=19

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Is there evidence/information that it was a Veolia lorry, though?

And surely a driver wouldn't have been using a mobile while turning right (obviously shouldn't have been at all, but while turning would be even worse)? 

What qualifications/experience/skills  etc do you have to have to be taken on as a bin lorry driver?

[SE22_2020er]

  On 13/04/2025 at 10:36, Sue said:

Is there evidence/information that it was a Veolia lorry, though?

And surely a driver wouldn't have been using a mobile while turning right (obviously shouldn't have been at all, but while turning would be even worse)? 

What qualifications/experience/skills  etc do you have to have to be taken on as a bin lorry driver?

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Hi Sue, for what it’s worth there were a number of employees in Veolia uniforms there when I went past at 8ish.