Dulwichlass Posted 23 hours ago Share Posted 23 hours ago Hey all, my joint freeholder has just sent me a section 20 notice for work that is not essential in front yard and porch. The problem is that I cannot afford it and it doesn't seem like I will be involved in any decisions on what materials (ie such as a new front door or tiles) they use. I spoke to a friend and the work could cost us each £5K and I just dont have the cash now. We are just two flats in a house and share the freehold. Can anyone provide me with some advice ? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/358516-section-20/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
hfoster Posted 21 hours ago Share Posted 21 hours ago Contact Lease Advice: https://www.lease-advice.org/ I think normally you should have a declaration of trust for disputes: https://www.lease-advice.org/article/share-of-freehold-when-joint-owners-should-consider-a-declaration-of-trust/ Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/358516-section-20/#findComment-1699559 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclemonkey Posted 7 hours ago Share Posted 7 hours ago (edited) The Section 20 is just notification of intention to carry out works. You have the right to object, propose an alternative or find different contractors. If you are joint freeholders why is your co freeholder acting unilaterally? What is your usual mechanism for making decisions? Edited 7 hours ago by Cyclemonkey Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/358516-section-20/#findComment-1699580 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dulwichlass Posted 4 hours ago Author Share Posted 4 hours ago The couple who I joint own the freehold tend to dictate on what work is needed. I usually just pay half but they usually decide the contractors to use. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/358516-section-20/#findComment-1699585 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenijenjen Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago They are serving the section 20 on you as a leaseholder, bypassing your role as a joint freeholder. This needs to be addressed with them, if necessary via a solicitor's letter, that any works that need to be done have to be jointly agreed. Also, whose lease does the front yard cover and what are the works that need to be carried out. For example, in my house the front yard is included in the lease of the ground floor flat and it is difficult to think of any works to the front yard that would fall within the responsibility of the freeholder. 1 Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/358516-section-20/#findComment-1699588 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclemonkey Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago Ok. You have bigger problems than this s20 notice. How have you let one freeholder dominate things. You both have the equal right to decide how to manage the communal areas of the property. I would get some legal advice on your duties and rights as a freeholder and then request a meeting to reset the relationship. Also as noted in other posts is the front yard and door actually the responsibility of the freeholder. These are all questions you should ask in your S20 response. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/358516-section-20/#findComment-1699595 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dulwichlass Posted 2 hours ago Author Share Posted 2 hours ago (edited) Thanks for these comments. Very helpful. The porch and hallway shows on their lease plan but we share the freehold together. Edited 2 hours ago by Dulwichlass Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/358516-section-20/#findComment-1699600 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angelina Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago it would seem very likely that they are trying it on if it their area - ie not a responsibility of the freehold. The freehold would cover the building structure (walls, foundation, roof) - possibly freeholder would have responsibility for the front door - if so, does the freeholder have the windows? Usually grey area in a lease so you could look at past instances - who has paid for window replacement, front door to be painted etc? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/358516-section-20/#findComment-1699602 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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