Derelict Grove Tavern - who to contact?

[Dean Connell]

Hey all,

Does anyone know how best to contact The Dulwich Estate or Stonegate? I'm a local entrepreneur with an idea for redeveloping the Derelict Grove Tavern. 

Thanks, 

Dean

Edited Monday at 15:04 by Administrator
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[Dogkennelhillbilly]

Dulwich Estate: https://www.thedulwichestate.org.uk/contact

 

Stonegate: I -think- this is the right company but not sure: https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/FC029833

UK contact details here: https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/BR014816

[hobbs16]

It doesn't need redeveloping.  The skate park is a perfect use.

[alice]

The skate park organically grew out of the situation to make it permanent defeats the purpose and the philosophy of such places

[firkinboo]

The skate park is foul. It’s an eyesore and also encourages underage drinking and drugs.

[Penguin68]

15 minutes ago, firkinboo said:

encourages underage drinking and drugs

Evidence? 

[Graham Little]

Please dont redevelop....the skatepark is a  rare place where young kids can chat, connect, and do something outside of the addictive but dull world of the internet. Community is one of our most precious parts of life. 

[claresy]

How mean-minded to call the creative project of a group of enterprising youngsters, using their time productively 'foul'?  Surely taking the initiative to set this u,p so young people can be outside and exercising is a positive and productive thing to be admired? 'Underage drinking and drugs' are more likely to happen when young people have nowhere to go and nothing to do (plus they can take place anywhere!) . How is a derelict pub better?

[Dogkennelhillbilly]

2 hours ago, Graham Little said:

Please dont redevelop....the skatepark is a  rare place where young kids can chat, connect, and do something outside of the addictive but dull world of the internet. Community is one of our most precious parts of life. 

Totally agree with you that the skate park is a great little autonomous zone for kids and youth. But at the same time there's gotta be a way to make better of the pub than having a derelict, vandalised building, even if it means moving the skate park. It's not just a missed opportunity, it's actively antisocial neglect by Dulwich Estate and Stonegate.

[Sue]

4 hours ago, firkinboo said:

The skate park is foul. It’s an eyesore and also encourages underage drinking and drugs.

Are you aware that the young people using the skate park, none of whom (to the best of my knowledge) had previously acted, put on an absolutely amazing performance of A Midsummer's Night Dream actually in and around the skate park?

They all learned their words. To the best of my knowledge they all made their costumes. They all attended rehearsals. 

During some scenes of the play, some of them were actually on skateboards.

The performance would have been a credit to professional actors. It was wonderful.

There were also a group of people using a small area behind the skateboard as an allotment. They are really keen. I have talked to them. I don't know if they are still there - it hasn't been the season or the weather for much growing lately.  

As for "underage drinking and drugs " -  I have never seen any evidence of either on this site. Have you, or are you just making assumptions?

Skateboarding is very skilled. How do you suppose somebody under the influence of alcohol or drugs could do it?

The last time I passed, there was a father (I presume) in there with his son (I presume). I don't know who was teaching who, but it was really heartwarming to see. 

 

[malumbu]

4 hours ago, firkinboo said:

The skate park is foul. It’s an eyesore and also encourages underage drinking and drugs.

Sounds like a cool place to hang out, even it I am over the minimum drinking age.  Always looks cool when I cycle past, never seen any bother and love some of the community stuff they do too.