Southwark consultation on Peckham gyratory

[Marguerita98]

Is anyone aware of the potential impact of the plans (to close off one road on the triangle to cyclists and restrict traffic on the other side) on East Dulwich Road and Goose Green?  

It seems to me that there will be a large volume of traffic displacement (including lorries) through East Dulwich and Lordship Lane particularly at busy times, as a result.  Link to consultation and the survey here:

 https://engage.southwark.gov.uk/en-GB/projects/peckham-rye-gyratory-bus-improvements

[malumbu]

You will have to explain this one to me, it looks to be improving bus and bike journeys, which is a good thing.  Traffic is always backed up the Rye during rush hour/term times, having used this route to commute for two decades by bike.  I'd welcome safer bike journeys.

I'll have a longer look later.

[Earl Aelfheah]

Just re-read the document. So they're making the east side of Peckham rye buses only? Is that likely to impact lordship lane?

I'm in favour of the extended pavements, safer crossings and segregated bike lanes. I imagine that making the east side of the rye a fast bus route will improve journey times too.

Edited 5 hours ago by Earl Aelfheah

[Spartacus]

The biggest impact will be the current lack of ability to turn right from Peckham Rye to Nunhead Lane.

The current run od traffic from Forest Hill road direction is either enter the gyratory, and either go along Peckham Rye East side to turm left into Nunhead lane or go into Copeland Road. 

Putting a timed bus gate in the section before Nigel Road and the buses only on the East side will then necessitate either allowing right turns at the corner of Peckham Rye into Nunhead Lane or as the OP pointed out, traffic will divert down via goose green roundabout to either go up to Nunhead or via Dog Kennel Hill to get to North of Peckham. 

The unintended impact could be more congestion and pollution in Rast Dulwich as a result. 

 

[alice]

Surely there’s computer programs or model what will happen if various avenues are blocked?

[ontheRye]

58 minutes ago, Spartacus said:

The biggest impact will be the current lack of ability to turn right from Peckham Rye to Nunhead Lane.

The current run od traffic from Forest Hill road direction is either enter the gyratory, and either go along Peckham Rye East side to turm left into Nunhead lane or go into Copeland Road. 

Putting a timed bus gate in the section before Nigel Road and the buses only on the East side will then necessitate either allowing right turns at the corner of Peckham Rye into Nunhead Lane or as the OP pointed out, traffic will divert down via goose green roundabout to either go up to Nunhead or via Dog Kennel Hill to get to North of Peckham. 

The unintended impact could be more congestion and pollution in Rast Dulwich as a result. 

 

It’s a peak hour bus lane in the section before Nigel Road, west side, not a bus gate, so shouldn’t impact normal traffic heading north from FH Road 

Edited 3 hours ago by ontheRye

[CPR Dave]

Those ominous words that always mean an expensive carbuncle:

"pubic realm improvements"

...

[malumbu]

It looks great and I wish it had been put in place many years ago.  A few car parking spaces lost, but there is a fair amount of parking in Peckham but why would you want to drive there?  I'll be responding positively. I doubt whether there are rat runs, as most will have long since been blocked off.    Colyton Road is a horrid road to drive down, unless you really have to.  There is probably some anecdote about lazy dog walkers driving there to go round the Rye, rather than walking but no evidence.  As so many seem to hate dogs in the Rye and park may be a good thing to introduce a CPZ on Colyton.