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OK, I have been extremely stupid.

This is a long and sorry saga, so unless you are into schadenfreude,Ā  or know about laptops and might actually be able to help, you probably need to stop reading here.

I got a new laptop last May, with a 2 year guarantee from John Lewis (that was my first mistake, but the laptop met all my requirements at a very good price).

I hate OneDrive, and IĀ  had been using Carbonite for backing up files.Ā 

When I got the new laptop, the files from my old laptop which had been backed up on Carbonite were downloaded onto it.

For tedious reasons originally related to problems with my old laptop, files and folders were duplicated all over the place. Sorting this out wasn't top of my priorities.

In an attempt to at least keep new files,Ā  and files edited since I bought the laptop, in one place and completely separate from all the old duplicatedĀ  files, I saved them all into foldersĀ  on the SSD.

However, I didn't restart the Carbonite backup, because my intention was to sort out all the duplicate files first.

About a fortnight ago, I bought an external hard drive. My intention was to copy everything on the new laptop onto it before I started deleting any of the duplicate files.

I hadn't done that yet because I had to finish doing my accounts and then do my online tax return. So the copying was next on my To Do list.

The inevitable happened. Out of the blue, my laptop went into complete meltdown. I was editing a spreadsheet and went into settings to turn the brightness up. I checked the brightness was ok on the spreadsheet, came out of settings, and suddenly everything went black.

I did all the obvious things, then googled other possible fixes, including specific to my laptop model, but nothing worked.

On starting the laptop, the Lenovo logo came up, the little white circle turned round, the red light for face recognition flashed, then zilch.Ā  But clearly it wasn't a problem with the physical screen, as it displayed the logo.

It wouldn't start in safe mode either.

I thought I might either have accidentally changed some setting, or else it might be connected with a recent updateĀ 

I couldn't try some of the tests suggested, eg removing RAM, because anything involving physically unscrewing my laptop would invalidate the guaranteeĀ 

I am a member of Which Tech, so I contacted them. Obviously their hands were rather tied as they couldn't connect remotely to the laptop as there was no display.

They said I couldn't have clicked on some other setting by mistake, as the display section only related to the display.

They said they thought it was probably an issue with either the operating system or the mother board, or a component of them. They said it should be possible to identify the fault without losing my data.

Given the involvement of John Lewis, I said I thought this was unlikely, as they had once told me to do an unnecessary factory reset on my old laptop and told me this wouldn't lose my data, which I had queried at the time,Ā  and had to pay me compensation.

So at this point I phoned John Lewis, to be told a repair would take "up to 28 working days" and no they wouldn't supply a replacement laptop during that time.

I decided to take the laptop to John Lewis rather than have it collected, so their tech people could look at it first.

So then the JL tech person said I must have clicked onĀ  Bitlocker by mistake and locked myself out out of the laptop.

I thought this was highly unlikely. Anyway, pursuing this line of thought did not help, and she was still unable to get into it by putting in the Bitlocker code.

So then we had the data saving conversation. She said the company the laptop would go to was approved by Lenovo. She said they would do a factory reset first regardless. I said could they not try to identify the fault first. She said no. I said could I not request that they did. She said no.

She said I could pay Ā£150 for data retrieval, which could be done first. She said it would require removing the hard drive. She said if anybody else did this it would invalidate the guarantee.

So. I have brought the laptop home to think things over. But I'm not willing to pay Ā£150,Ā  because the important files I can reconstruct by other means, and I have hard copies of most of them, it's just a time consuming pain.

I have contacted Carbonite to see if they have any way of backing up the non backed up data even though I can't get into the laptop.

If you have managed to reach the end of this post, congratulations šŸ¤£ and do you have any bright ideas?

I have typed all this on my mobile. It has taken a very very long time šŸ¤£

Edited by Sue

You are seeing the Lenovo logo because that Ā is generated by the system's firmware, known as the BIOS (Basic Input/Output System) This is part of the Power-On Self-Test (POST) process, which checks basic hardware functionality.

If the system fails to proceed past the logo screen, it could indicate that the BIOS/UEFI cannot locate or access the bootable operating system. This is often due to:

Ā If the drive has failed thenĀ  the BIOS won't find the necessary files to load the OS.

Ā Even if the SSD is operational, bootloader corruption could cause the same issue.

Ā Misconfigured boot order or settings in the BIOS/UEFI might prevent booting.

Ā Ā Diagnosing SSD Failure:

To confirm whether the SSD is the problem:

Enter the BIOS/UEFI settings (usually by pressing a key like F2, DEL, or ESC during startup).

Check if the SSD is detected in the storage or boot section.

Run any available diagnostics tools in the BIOS.

If the SSD isn't recognized, it's likely failed or has a loose connection.

Alternatively, you can boot the system using a live USB or external OS to verify SSD accessibility.

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