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There has still not been a shred of evidence presented that there is some kind of deliberate Southwark policy to 'bend the rules' to generate income from fines. It defies logic - to pull off some deliberate policy in this regard, as suggested, would involve a systemic conspiracy at many layers of the council - a public and accountable organisation - that just isn't plausible. Until you can present some proper evidence, instead of chucking out supposition based on a camera position, the impression is you are just creating a smear. 

 

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5 minutes ago, DulvilleRes said:

There has still not been a shred of evidence presented that there is some kind of deliberate Southwark policy to 'bend the rules' to generate income from fines. It defies logic - to pull off some deliberate policy in this regard, as suggested, would involve a systemic conspiracy at many layers of the council - a public and accountable organisation - that just isn't plausible. Until you can present some proper evidence, instead of chucking out supposition based on a camera position, the impression is you are just creating a smear. 

Ha ha...given you repeated defence of the Dulwich Society Active Travel Branch, a group that has been lobbying for the DV LTN (which has benefited from revenue generated from these fines) such a response was to be expected...;-)

Perfect timing Dulville! 😉

I must say, the mere thought that a seriously cash-strapped council might try to find ways to 'stretch' the rules so that it can utilise a massive multi million pound parking revenue reserve fund, just sitting in its bank account, does seem like the most far fetched conspiracy you could ever, ever dream up. And, as Dulville says, absolutely defies all logic😂

As we know, this council is always utterly straightforward and transparent in all its dealings. 

 

Edited by first mate

I'm mainly here to stop attempts at spreading misinformation from a monomaniac.

Recent examples include:

  • Misrepresentations of research into the Railton Road LTN 
  • False claims that Southwark Council's own guidance sates LTNs should only be established in the North of the Borough
  • Irresponsible suggestions that TFL guidance is that individuals may drive in a bus lane when turning left.
  • Unevidenced claims that Southwark Council are breaking the law by introducing controlled parking schemes for the purpose of income generation.

etc...

I feel it's important that this stuff shouldn't go unchallenged, as I would like this forum to be a place for good faith debate.

Edited by Earl Aelfheah

That all sounds incredibly noble, but sadly just not convincing. Your own extensive track record of twisting and misrepresentation of what others have said, even suggesting other posters are making things up (lying)  does you no favours. Plus, in the list of points above you are again making multiple misrepresentations about what others have said. These are not the actions of someone interested only in 'good faith debate'.

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4 hours ago, Earl Aelfheah said:
  • Misrepresentations of research into the Railton Road LTN 
  • False claims that Southwark Council's own guidance sates LTNs should only be established in the North of the Borough
  • Irresponsible suggestions that TFL guidance is that individuals may drive in a bus lane when turning left.
  • Unevidenced claims that Southwark Council are breaking the law by introducing controlled parking schemes for the purpose of income generation.

The irony is of course that each and every one of these have been proven to be true...it's just some steadfastly refuse to acknowledge it! The fact these even get cited as misrepresentations after everything presented shows how laughable this has become. Some people do their side no favours at all....

 

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