Child attacked near FH Road

[alice]

I wasn’t sure whether to post this. It happened yesterday. A child, a young boy was beaten up by two boys wearing masks on bikes had his phone stolen.  

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[Spartacus]

Possibly best to contact the police and give a full description of the incident so that if the victim reports it they can tie your report to bit and hopefully catch the perpetrators.

However a good warning for parents to thier children that this has occurred in the area and to keep their phones hidden when walking around. 

[alice]

infomation not relevant 

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[SpringTime]

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[Happyme5]

It is a very scary horrible thing to happen.  I hope the young child recovers.  Bless him.   

[Kathleen Olander]

Very sad to hear this, wishing the child well.

[beansprout]

T his is where tea with a cop would be so so useful.

ED is not theonly place. Walking in DV yesterday, this service was also offered.

Let’s face it - the police are stretched to their limits as it is - not saying that the incident is not important, but as a community, we should be working/helping together.

Clocks have only just changed - opportunist are only going to try it on more - kids, older folk, disabled etc.

community spirit is what is needed for all

 

 

 

 

[Dogkennelhillbilly]

There is a spate of kid-on-kid robberies this time of year every year. It's as regular as the clocks changing or the leaves falling. Usually it's after school as kids are walking home. Often it's same little group of robbers that keep going until they (almost inevitably) get arrested. Very unpleasant for the victim.

It should always be reported to police. I'm always happy to criticise the Met - but my impression is that the Community Safety Teams (beat cops) have always been very responsive to this kind of issue. It is worth speaking to them as well as just 999/101.

[Penguin68]

It doesn't help that, on the night in question if I've understood it right, a lot of children and young people were parading the streets in masks and costumes. It seems sadly almost inevitable that some scrotes would take advantage of that.

[alice]

It was the afternoon about half past one, I can’t see how ‘cuppa with a copper’ or  ‘the community’  could've  helped.  

[Azalea]

Last night, early evening, there were about five police vans with their lights on blocking  Oglander Road and Oxenford Street.  Does anyone know what was going on?  Five police vans indicate something serious.  Maybe I should post this somewhere else.

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[malumbu]

  On 02/11/2024 at 10:37, Penguin68 said:

It doesn't help that, on the night in question if I've understood it right, a lot of children and young people were parading the streets in masks and costumes. It seems sadly almost inevitable that some scrotes would take advantage of that.

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Thanks for posting DKH and very much agree with your views

Penguin, whilst you have a good point, you, and others, whenever you use terms like scum, or in this case scrote, it comes over all reactionary and dilutes your point.

That's not diminishing that all crimes against the person are wrong, but I want a world where we all get on rather than go down the populist approach of demonsing groups of people in our community.

[alice]

As I’ve said above this was nothing to do with Halloween. Maybe I misled by mentioning masks. I’m talking about full face coverings rather than funky  scary masks. And Mal what word would you choose to describe two young men who didn’t just steal a phone but attacked and punched a young kid in the face until it was swollen and bleeding and he was hardly able to put a sentence together.  

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[Rockets]

Unfortunately, these types of attacks are increasing - it's been happening for a while now. Groups of thieves are targeting kids (and adults) in the area for their phones - it's organised groups of thieves working the area all, in the main, dressed identically, wearing balaclavas and masks and riding identical bikes.

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[Guest Dulwichway]

Lets hope the poor lad is recovering well and these filthy violent robbers get some deserved justice sent their way sometime soon.

[van dessel]

Thanks for brining this up, it is ALWAYS worth bringing up. This is our neighbourhood afterall - if we can't care about our own environs then what else should we be concerned about?  Some war far away where regular people like us won't make a jot of difference but which still attracts tons of cops to police weekly while local kids get beat up?  It takes a cool analytical big-picture head to think just how messed up this situation is.  Too much on the 90% of our lives we cannot control, too little on the 10% we can. I applaud the OP for raising this.

With things like stolen bikes, broken-into parked cars, intimidated children it's worth making a report b/c more of more services are driven by stats/KPIs.  Eventually, the numbers amass. 

I don't care who is stretched. Tell me someone who would say they're NOT stretched - the point is we all pay tons of tax and are deserve appropriate level of services.

Would tea with a cop help? I dunno, think this needs something a bit more decisive than that.  I know there are supplementary parental patrols - worth helping them to assign their resources better by making them aware of recent trouble-spots.  Realise this was out of term-time but worth raising nonetheless.

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[alice]

V.d don’t use this thread to push your own political agenda

[Rockets]

I am sorry, if you are two thieves who attack and injure a child to rob them of their phone then you are scrotes.

That's not being reactionary, that's being polite...

[Happyme5]

This is "just" a nasty crime.  It goes on all the time.  Face masks are worn to hide the faces of the cowards.   Since COVID it is easier to wear a balaclava with justification.   Children are and have been targeted by other children for a very long time.  It just seems to be brazen when done in the middle of a high street in the day time.  It goes on all the time.  It doesn't make it right.  And we as adults should be able to help and become part of the solution.   But we often too  scared to intervene.    The police are too slow to arrive at the scene and they often downgrade it to "just" another daily event.  That is the real reason why this goes on.  If you dare try to help then you end up in more trouble than the blinking backsides who are the actual criminals.   Look up along the streets and see the trainers hanging over to our heads.  

[Sue]

  On 02/11/2024 at 22:14, Happyme5 said:

This is "just" a nasty crime.  It goes on all the time.  Face masks are worn to hide the faces of the cowards.   Since COVID it is easier to wear a balaclava with justification.   Children are and have been targeted by other children for a very long time.  It just seems to be brazen when done in the middle of a high street in the day time.  It goes on all the time.  It doesn't make it right.  And we as adults should be able to help and become part of the solution.   But we often too  scared to intervene.    The police are too slow to arrive at the scene and they often downgrade it to "just" another daily event.  That is the real reason why this goes on.  If you dare try to help then you end up in more trouble than the blinking backsides who are the actual criminals.   Look up along the streets and see the trainers hanging over to our heads.  

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The police can't be everywhere, and they have to prioritise.

There should be more of them, and they should be walking the streets, like they used to.

It is hard for a passerby to intervene when you don't know if the attackers may have knives.

Also, you don't know what your reaction may be if faced with a violent situation. I was once on a bus where a young man was kicked down the stairs by two youths. 

The driver did nothing except open the doors to let them out, and to my utter shame I retreated to the back of the bus and didn't do anything either.

[malumbu]

I expect that the majority of us agree that if we want more policing then we have to pay for this.  

That's an issue for the government of the day, as is community relations, education etc etc 

Do contact Ellie with how you consider government should do better and copy to the Mayor.

That does not absolve parents and schools on their responsibilities.

[Dogkennelhillbilly]

  On 02/11/2024 at 23:29, Sue said:

There should be more of them, and they should be walking the streets, like they used to.

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...and this time last year the Safer Neighbourhood Team organised exactly that when there was the annual outbreak of this kind of robbery...

[Sue]

  On 03/11/2024 at 08:16, Dogkennelhillbilly said:

...and this time last year the Safer Neighbourhood Team organised exactly that when there was the annual outbreak of this kind of robbery...

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Annual outbreak? Why is that? 

And how did they manage to suddenly find more people when the Met had  had their overall numbers so  drastically cut?

[Rockets]

According to police figures on reported crime these types of crime have been steadily increasing over a long period of time (on the figures I looked at for the Dulwich Village ward), it's one of the reasons that reported crimes are at their highest for 3 years. I suspect similar trends will have been seen in other wards too.

[jazzer]

  On 02/11/2024 at 23:42, malumbu said:

I expect that the majority of us agree that if we want more policing then we have to pay for this.  

That's an issue for the government of the day, as is community relations, education etc etc 

Do contact Ellie with how you consider government should do better and copy to the Mayor.

That does not absolve parents and schools on their responsibilities.

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Its a Mayoral issue as he is responsible for the Police in London while Mark Rollie runs the Met and answers to the Mayor through the London Assembly as far as I am aware, please correct me if I am mistaken