Cycles jumping lights

[ydrmdy]

I came across a father with a very young child coming up limesford road, which is currently a one way road due to the Nunhead cemetery wall reconstruction. 

The lights were green for me, so I continued to go down Limesfoed, the guy shouted at me, like I was in the wrong.  Are cyclist allowed to take the roads, by jumping lights, despite being given government safety? I see this everyday. 

[malumbu]

Your post is a little confusing, what were the father and child doing? 

For balance I cycled along Brenchley Gardens a couple of Sundays ago in the evening, there was a long line of cars coming towards Forest Hill Road, one car decides to overtake the whole line driving perhaps 60mph or more.  This cyclist had to get out of the speeding car's way.

On Friday I was walking on the same road. There were two electric bikes, looking like small trails motorbikes.  No lights, no helmets, no registration plates, no doubt no insurance.  Traveling well above the 20mph speed limit, weaving in and out of the cars, then came back the other way doing the same, and then returned for a further go.

Perhaps re-title the thread as inconsiderate road users, rather than yet another thread complaining about cyclists.

[jazzer]

A couple of Saturdays ago, I almost got wiped out by a white Uber cab as I was crossing Forest Hill Road to Brenchley Gardens, the Uber came out of no where from Brenchley, it was inches away from hitting me, how it missed I have no idea, one life lost. 

[ydrmdy]

  On 30/09/2024 at 08:59, jazzer said:

A couple of Saturdays ago, I almost got wiped out by a white Uber cab as I was crossing Forest Hill Road to Brenchley Gardens, the Uber came out of no where from Brenchley, it was inches away from hitting me, how it missed I have no idea, one life lost. 

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Sorry,  was you on a bike or a pedestrian?

  On 29/09/2024 at 22:13, malumbu said:

Your post is a little confusing, what were the father and child doing? 

For balance I cycled along Brenchley Gardens a couple of Sundays ago in the evening, there was a long line of cars coming towards Forest Hill Road, one car decides to overtake the whole line driving perhaps 60mph or more.  This cyclist had to get out of the speeding car's way.

On Friday I was walking on the same road. There were two electric bikes, looking like small trails motorbikes.  No lights, no helmets, no registration plates, no doubt no insurance.  Traveling well above the 20mph speed limit, weaving in and out of the cars, then came back the other way doing the same, and then returned for a further go.

Perhaps re-title the thread as inconsiderate road users, rather than yet another thread complaining about cyclists.

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Well it WAS a cyclist, Who if you read the post again, came up a one way street through a red light! With a small child.

  On 30/09/2024 at 13:48, ydrmdy said:

Sorry,  was you on a bike or a pedestrian?

Well it WAS a cyclist, Who if you read the post again, came up a one way street , With a small child.

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  On 30/09/2024 at 13:48, ydrmdy said:

 

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  On 30/09/2024 at 13:48, ydrmdy said:

Sorry,  was you on a bike or a pedestrian?

 

 

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[Dogkennelhillbilly]

  On 29/09/2024 at 20:51, ydrmdy said:

The lights were green for me

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Where are there traffic lights on Limesford Rd? I don't think I understand the story.

Anyway, it sounds you might have come across an idiot. There are a few in London.

[Sue]

  On 30/09/2024 at 19:17, Dogkennelhillbilly said:

Where are there traffic lights on Limesford Rd? I don't think I understand the story.

Anyway, it sounds you might have come across an idiot. There are a few in London.

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The OP says the road is presently one way, so presumably there are temporary traffic lights at each end?

Is it  possible that the lights were out of phase so that the cyclist did in fact go through a green light but the lights at the car end changed to green before the cyclist reached the end of the road?

[malumbu]

Most of the time when I see daft things on the road I shrug my shoulders, think of zen/karma and get on with my day.  I'm not compelled to post on social media.  Although I spent an hour or two around Dulwich today although sadly didn't see anything exciting.  A coach let me turn right into Lordship Lane, and then a car driver let me on the other side.  I thanked both and we shared a smile.  Perhaps I should start a thread up about road users behaving well 

Edited to add,  I cycled twice through Dulwich Square, I didn't see any speeding bikes coming into conflict with pedestrians.  Probably an unusual day.

[Spartacus]

Fascinating 

A pedestrian starts a thread about bad cyclists jumping a red light and the cyclists jump on  it to say how bad car drivers are 

Malumbu, you are so often the one starting the them and us rethoric rather than accepting there are bad riad users in both categories. 

[Dogkennelhillbilly]

  On 30/09/2024 at 19:58, malumbu said:

 I spent an hour or two around Dulwich today although sadly didn't see anything exciting.

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I don't believe it. This place is a veritable Las Vegas de nos jours of conspiracy, corruption and high speed bicycle chases, or so I've been told on here. Intrigue hides around the corner of every planter!

[malumbu]

Funnily enough I had had a close pass, quite slow on the South Circ, but it had washed over me.  And tempting fate some driver on a side road this evening hit about 60mph so I had to get out of the way.  We had a pleasant exchange of words.  But no point in starting yet another thread on abusive road users.

[Sue]

  On 30/09/2024 at 22:48, malumbu said:

Funnily enough I had had a close pass, quite slow on the South Circ, but it had washed over me.  And tempting fate some driver on a side road this evening hit about 60mph so I had to get out of the way.  We had a pleasant exchange of words.  But no point in starting yet another thread on abusive road users.

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The thing is, it's not about "cyclists" or "drivers", is it?

It's about some people's lack of consideration for other people and disregard of the "rules", or perhaps just being in a  bubble where they are  unaware of what is happening around them - or are aware but don't care.

Or are angry about something else, or just generally angry.

Those things presumably don't just affect their behaviour when cycling or driving, but they do affect other people directly and potentially more dangerously in those situations.

I appreciate that it's tempting to vent one's wrath on here and elsewhere about particular incidents you have witnessed or which have affected you, and I've done it myself, but it's not going to change anything, is it?

What "causes" some people to be like that in the first place is a whole other issue, of course ....

Edited October 1, 2024 by Sue

[Rockets]

On my journey to work today at every red light cyclists jumped the lights.

They did not kill or injure anyone.

They were not killed or injured by anyone.

But if they had been killed or injured whilst jumping the red light then that would be used to defend bad cycling by saying cars kill and injure more people than bikes do.

 

 

 

[Penguin68]

At the Woodvale junction with Forest Hill Road I observed a cyclist who swerved out of my lane and into the oncoming lane and then turned right across the junction into Forest Hill Road (against a red light) without breaking his (considerable, for a cycle) pace. It was an immensely stupid action, but he got away with it, as drivers avoided him. One day he won't, and then he'll be another tragic statistic. And someone (the driver who hit him) will be traumatised by the event, forever (probably) blaming themselves for hitting him. As anyone would, whoever was 'to blame'.

[Kathleen Olander]

  On 30/09/2024 at 19:58, malumbu said:

Most of the time when I see daft things on the road I shrug my shoulders, think of zen/karma and get on with my day.  I'm not compelled to post on social media.  Although I spent an hour or two around Dulwich today although sadly didn't see anything exciting.  A coach let me turn right into Lordship Lane, and then a car driver let me on the other side.  I thanked both and we shared a smile.  Perhaps I should start a thread up about road users behaving well 

Edited to add,  I cycled twice through Dulwich Square, I didn't see any speeding bikes coming into conflict with pedestrians.  Probably an unusual day.

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Dulwich Junction is a nightmare at the moment for pedestrians.  There is a temporary cycle lane that cuts through from Carlton Ave and over the crossroad to Turney,  As a pedestrian walking from one side of Dulwich Village to the other there is no indication that you are walking across a cycle lane.  It's an accident waiting to happen.  Whilst these works are going on I think it should be pedestrians only.

[Earl Aelfheah]

  On 30/09/2024 at 19:58, malumbu said:

Most of the time when I see daft things on the road I shrug my shoulders, think of zen/karma and get on with my day.  I'm not compelled to post on social media.  Although I spent an hour or two around Dulwich today although sadly didn't see anything exciting.  A coach let me turn right into Lordship Lane, and then a car driver let me on the other side.  I thanked both and we shared a smile.  Perhaps I should start a thread up about road users behaving well 

Edited to add,  I cycled twice through Dulwich Square, I didn't see any speeding bikes coming into conflict with pedestrians.  Probably an unusual day.

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... Ogmios School of Zen Motoring -

 

Edited October 1, 2024 by Earl Aelfheah

[first mate]

malambu said: "I'm not compelled to post on social media". 🤣🤣🤣
 

And yet, here you are, again...

 

[Rockets]

They have tried to wrestle this confliction previously....on numerous occasions. And yet......;-)