Police Misreporting Crime with support of Southwark Council

[JMK]

Hi 

does anyone have experience of the police misreporting crime?

I have very recent experience of them misreporting a crime of one of the most serious and violent types in this area and rather misclassifying it as a very low level, ordinary type of crime and one that has little to no victims.

Furthermore, the Police have then immediately closed the case and said that there’s nothing that they can do even though they haven’t undertaken some of the most basic investigative procedures such as interviewing witnesses, checking CCTV etc…

Southwark Council who also have a material role in this have are complicit with the police in this deliberate misreporting of a very serious and violent crime.  The local council representatives are also complicit

Each of these bodies say that there is nothing that they can do.

As a minimum, it seems as though all these parties deliberately want to misreport a very serious and violent crime as a very low category crime and then close the case immediately because they want their crime stats to look good.

The Independent Office for Police Conduct merely states that they will refer any complaint to the police force in question who will investigate it themselves in the first instance!

Separately, the Southwark Council Serious Violence & Duty Strategy 2023-24 states that:

https://www.southwark.gov.uk/assets/attach/242858/Serious-Violence-Duty-Strategy-2023-2024.pdf

 

 - Southwark has the 10th highest rate of serious violence in London

 - the five year trend is upward

 - the Police had identified 43 Organised Crime Gangs in Southwark at Dec 2022

 - that “the illegal drug market was worth millions to the local economy” - implying that they didn’t wish to stop it as it would be very bad to the local economy!

 

 

 

[alice]

There are 12 inner London boroughs.  

I hope your personal situation gets resolved.

[Sue]

1 hour ago, JMK said:

Hi 

does anyone have experience of the police misreporting crime?

I have very recent experience of them misreporting a crime of one of the most serious and violent types in this area and rather misclassifying it as a very low level, ordinary type of crime and one that has little to no victims.

Furthermore, the Police have then immediately closed the case and said that there’s nothing that they can do even though they haven’t undertaken some of the most basic investigative procedures such as interviewing witnesses, checking CCTV etc…

Southwark Council who also have a material role in this have are complicit with the police in this deliberate misreporting of a very serious and violent crime.  The local council representatives are also complicit

Each of these bodies say that there is nothing that they can do.

As a minimum, it seems as though all these parties deliberately want to misreport a very serious and violent crime as a very low category crime and then close the case immediately because they want their crime stats to look good.

The Independent Office for Police Conduct merely states that they will refer any complaint to the police force in question who will investigate it themselves in the first instance!

Separately, the Southwark Council Serious Violence & Duty Strategy 2023-24 states that:

https://www.southwark.gov.uk/assets/attach/242858/Serious-Violence-Duty-Strategy-2023-2024.pdf

 

 - Southwark has the 10th highest rate of serious violence in London

 - the five year trend is upward

 - the Police had identified 43 Organised Crime Gangs in Southwark at Dec 2022

 - that “the illegal drug market was worth millions to the local economy” - implying that they didn’t wish to stop it as it would be very bad to the local economy!

 

 

 

What was the "very serious and violent" crime?

[malumbu]

This is legally a rather inappropriate post.  You have appropriate avenues to go through if you want to complain about the police.  I'm not sure why you have bought Southwark into this. I'll leave it to admin whether it is deleted

Edited September 29 by Administrator
The post can stay. They are looking for advise. Nothing against the rules as it does not specifically disclose uninvestigated crimes.

[Sue]

18 hours ago, Sue said:

What was the "very serious and violent" crime?

No need to be specific. Just the type of crime.

[JMK]

a simple Google search renders multiple articles from mainstream media incl. BBC, Sky News, Financial Times on this topic since at least 2008 and also a discussion in a House of Commons Parliamentary Select Committee 

 

The original post is very clear and precise in requesting advice and people’s experience of the act of the misreporting of crime and also collusion in this act by the agencies and democratically elected representatives who are supposed to represent the interests of their communities.  It is not about the criminal act itself.
 

Met Police misreports intimate searches of children
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-65700511

Sky News: One in Five of All Crimes not Recorded by the Police

https://news.sky.com/story/one-in-five-of-all-crimes-not-recorded-by-police-10382167

Financial Times: Serious crime misreported by police

https://www.ft.com/content/9ee810ce-a0f1-11dd-82fd-000077b07658

 

https://hmicfrs.justiceinspectorates.gov.uk/news/news-feed/victims-let-down-by-poor-crime-recording/

House of Commons, Commons Select Committee, Public Administration 

Caught red-handed: Why we can't count on Police Recorded Crime statistics - Public Administration Committee

https://publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm201314/cmselect/cmpubadm/760/76007.htm

[aloevera]

Shocking!!! I'm glad the topic is open, people need to know about it. 

Thanks JMK.

[Dulwich Born And Bred]

I can well believe this given my own experience of trying to report a crime, having CCTV evidence and it being dismissed. Twice. 
 

[Penguin68]

My daughter reported an assault (as it was happening) with a deadly weapon (car driven several times into a cyclist pinning him against another car - road rage) and I photographed a burglar actually burgling a house - the police wouldn't even come out for the first incident, and didn't charge anyone for the second as the value of goods stolen 'wasn't enough'.

Both incidents in ED. 

The Met really can't be @rsed - turning up in a safe space to talk to the middle class over a cup of tea is as good as it gets.

[malumbu]

You have made serious accusations against the police and you have now used a scattergun approach to support your views by putting it out to the masses.  Whatever my issues with the police, and I have no shortage, I'd use the processes in place to complain and seek action, rather than jury by the masses.  And if This fails I'd  then go to my elected representative. I'm keeping my stories, that may or not be representative of systematic incompetence or corruption, to the pub.

[alice]

Different people have different ways of dealing with difficulties. Your way clearly suits you.  However the very recent Casey report highlights major difficulties of the Metropolitan police.  The 'processes in place' are not working.

[Rockets]

This is interesting as I was looking at the local crime figures earlier this year (the catalyst for which was Cllr Leeming telling people there was no increase in crime but a perceived increase in crime) but there was actual month on month increases in crime and the trend was definitely upwards.

Then, the police stopped reporting crime stats, or at least publishing them on a ward by ward basis across the whole of London. I think they have started again but I will take a look to see if the upward trend is continuing.

 

Malumbu, if you don't have a go about the authorities about the problems with crime then who do you suggest becomes the focal point - after all it is the responsibility of both the police and council to keep us safe.