Appetite (no pun intended) for a Japanese on Lordship Lane... ?

[Asha22]

Hi all,

A somewhat speculative post, however a good friend is considering opening up a high quality Japanese restaurant on or around Lordship Lane (subject to finding the right site). Lots of fresh sushi, sashimi, Asian salads and hot dishes etc.

Embryonic at this stage however interested to see if people would value this cuisine locally?

All perspectives valuable. Many thanks in advance!

[Jakido]

They could dip their toe in by setting up in North Cross Rd Market on one Saturday.

[DulwichFox]

Why do people expect there to be a restaurant of every Nationality on their doorstep.

Perhaps Southwark should build a Big Dome over Lordship Lane. Like Center Parcs.

Then no one would ever need to leave. and we could charge people to enter.

They could sell Daily/Weekly Passes with vouchers we could exchange in any Bar / Restaurant.

Should not Joke about such things.

Foxy.

[MissDumpling]

Would absolutely love it! Ignore sarcasm and sniping on here - I think it's a strong idea. There is a gap in the market in the area, and lots of discerning food lovers to court.

The sushi lady had a lot of regulars outside Moxon's on a Saturday and is much missed. Might be worth talking to them about a stall to test out the local market for sushi, sashimi and salads?

Good luck!

[Jeremy]

It would probably do very well. Obviously the food has to be good and people need to think they're getting value for money. So no point selling itsu-style sushi and charging ?2.50 a piece for it.

[DulwichFox]

There are approx. 200 different cuisines world wide.

It would not be possible to represent even a small percentage of those here in E.D.

Japanese Cuisine is a fairly recent 'Fad' unlikely to justify a full scale restaurant.

It is best suited to a large City center where there would be a high turnover of tourists and visitors.

A market stall is more likely to be popular and successful.

DulwichFox

[MissDumpling]

Dulwich Fox. What are you on about? There are many examples of successful neighbourhood Japanese restaurants in the capital. This was a perfectly reasonable enquiry by the OP, and your responses have been unnecessarily dismissive and plain rude. I think you should apologise.

[DulwichFox]

MissDumpling Wrote:

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> Dulwich Fox. What are you on about? There are

> many examples of successful neighbourhood Japanese

> restaurants in the capital. This was a perfectly

> reasonable enquiry by the OP, and your responses

> have been unnecessarily dismissive and plain rude.

> I think you should apologise.

There is nothing rude about my post either in content or intent.

I do not believe anyone needs to apologise for expressing genuine opinion.

If there were ever to be a suggestion here on EDF that I considered a plausible business venture,

I would be to back it. I would be happy to fund it. I have money to invest.

Having lost money on my own pipe dream 20+ years ago I am fully aware of the pitfalls.

If anyone makes any consideration for a new venture, they need to think about would they put

their own money into it.

Some people have already taken the brave step to do so with the Ivy House Community Project.

Despite some people taking my views in the wrong light, I really hope it takes off.

I used to use the place back in the 70's and really look forwards to paying it a visit.

Even if I don't be a regular.

Foxy

[MissDumpling]

Your first response was sarcastic. Read it back and ask yourself - was this a helpful response? And the answer is clearly NO. You may not have intended to be rude, but I'm doing you the favour of letting you know that you came across as such, and am encouraging you to change your ways and be nice, and apologise for your unprovoked sarcasm. Please try and limit your reply to two paragraphs at most. I'm busy.

[Silvia in Peckham]

I would love a local Japanese, provided it's the real deal and led by an authentic Japanese sushi chef. I know plenty of friends who adore Japanese and find there is a gap in the market in Peckham/Dulwich/Camberwell for a good Japanese. Camden has one or two, Brixton has a brilliant one, plenty of them in East London, so we need one.

Bring it on!

[DulwichFox]

My first response was not aimed at the OP.

I do not target individuals unless it is response to personal attack on myself. (Like what you are Doing)

It was based on observations by many posters who all have a preference for a certain cuisine.

And the need to be based in E.D.

My second response indicated that it is not possible to cater for everyone here in ED.

and from a business POV may not be viable.

I find it nice to escape from E.D and have a meal elsewhere. IE. Down by the River.

There really IS life outside E.D.

Please try and limit your reply to two paragraphs at most. I'm busy.

Sorry. but it takes what it takes.. and is easier to read.

DulwichFox

[DulwichFox]

Let us remember people asked for a Vegetarian Indian Restaurant..

People raved about it.

When a decent one was opened, only a handful of people used it. So it was forced to close.

Foxy

[mrure26]

I would welcome one or a market stall to begin with. It must be good quality, authentic and not cost the earth. There is a miss in this area regarding Japanese food.

[niwi]

Yes absolutely! It would have to be decent quality though and if so I would be there regularly to get my fix!

[PeterSeychelles]

We would be very pleased to see a good Japanese restaurant on LL.

[edcam]

I'd go if it was good. I know that sounds obvious but if it's overpriced and average then it will fail. If it's too cheap and of poor quality it will fail.

Good Japanese food can be amazing (Tokyo has more Michelin stars than anywhere in the world) but it's very easy for it to be too generic and average.

Do something well and specialise and I think it could be a winner.

[DulwichFox]

Not all the Tokyo Michelin Starred restaurants are Japanese food.

Most are French inspired or Fusion...with western influences..

DulwichFox

[katanita]

oh my god yes, if good quality, would be a regular for sure.

[Landy10]

A Japanese would be a great addition to the area....that or good quality Asian fusion

[KidKruger]

I think the suggestion to start-off on the market is sound. This would get the profile and an initial feel for what locals wanted. Cwasnt there a sushi lady outside the fishmongers on Saturday for a couple of years ?? She seemed to be popular, so on the surface, there's (was) a latent demand waiting for someone to come and satisfy.

Foxy - cut some slack, no-one's suggesting EVERY cuisine !!

I bet you were like that back in the 70's when they opened the first curry house !! "Not 'round 'ere THIS is East Daaalich.."

And now ya luv it, doncha me ole cocka ? Ruby and a beer ?! Heh ? Hmmm, well hmm, yes hmmmm ?

[DulwichFox]

KidKruger Wrote:

> Foxy - cut some slack, no-one's suggesting EVERY

> cuisine !!

> I bet you were like that back in the 70's when

> they opened the first curry house !! "Not 'round

> 'ere THIS is East Daaalich.."

> And now ya luv it, doncha me ole cocka ? Ruby and

> a beer ?! Heh ? Hmmm, well hmm, yes hmmmm ?

I was one of The Curry Cabin's first customers... 1972..

and they still remember me from back then..

I lived in Peckham and used to use the 'Indo-Pak Restaurant' as it was called back then. Next to the Odeon.

The guy from there I believe was at Curry Cabin and then at Pistachio Club and still lives in East Dulwich.

I've lost track a bit . Not sure if it's the same guy now at Mirash.

I have always liked Curry and have been cooking it and eating it for over 40 years.

I worked near Brick Lane when there was only 2 Restaurants The Clifton and the Nasril (Where Salmon Rushdie)

used to eat..

Back then Mutton Curry, Boiled Rice, Chapatti, Onion Salad & Green Chillies all for 80p.

Never been a NIMBY when it comes to Curry.

Foxy

[Linzi_77]

OH MY GOD PLEASE OPEN A SUSHI RESTAURANT WITH TAKEAWAY AT AFFORDABLE PRICES!!

I used to live in Brixton and was a massive fan of Fujiyama, but it's too far to go for a lunchtime takeaway, it's not on my way home after work and even Deliverance won't deliver their sushi to SE15 yet! Please please please open a sushi restaurant!!

[DulwichFox]

If there were anyone planning to open a Japanese / Sushi Restaurant and thought East Dulwich

would be a good location. Then surely they would of already done it.

It is a specialist cuisine..

I'm sure there are people here would like to see Vietnamese, Korean, Portuguese ...

Would be at the expense of existing businesses.

East Dulwich is not big enough.

DulwichFox.

[RPK073]

great idea...as much as I love a curry theres way too many on the Lane. Could do with a decent Italian as well..

R

[StraferJack]

I'm sure people say Italian just to troll

What Italian need is not being met in east dulwich?