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Re. maxxi's post...


CC's decline started 4 years before they left Highfield Rd, the day they were relegated. Failure to 'get it right' whilst supported by the first year's parachute payment, resulted in inevitable huge drop in income, best players being sold etc...figured.


No need to have trawled through the archives, anyone reading this thread since BFS became manager will know that you don't like him...period. The man can do no good even when he has done good.

Any pluses he has had such as promotion, top 10 finish in first season (an overachievement IMO), League Cup semi's are despite of him, whereas all the negatives are because of him.

Must be great living in your world maxxi, where do I sign up? :)

red devil Wrote:

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> CC's decline started 4 years before they left

> Highfield Rd, the day they were relegated. Failure

> to 'get it right' whilst supported by the first

> year's parachute payment, resulted in inevitable

> huge drop in income, best players being sold etc...figured.


The big money players (e.g. Keane, McAllister) left a season before relegation when things were still going well and although relegated when you say, the real decline only happened after the move which led to a series of changes at the top and SISU moving in 2 years later to stave off administration. Yes I admit I checked the dates on Wikipedants but being from Coventry I had all it in my ear'ole from various relatives/friends at the time too. (I worked at Highfield Rd for 5 years so maybe I'm biased*)


> No need to have trawled through the archives,> anyone reading this thread since BFS became> manager will know that you don't like> him...period. The man can do no good even when he> has done good.


I 'trawled' to show some context - either I "must have thought he was doing something right" or "anyone.. will know that you don't like him...period." can't be both can it?


Maybe it can in your world but then you seem to think anyone with dreams for their club (however fantastical or seemingly ridiculous they appear to the sensible) should shut up and accept pragmatism and economic reality - cos that's why we all love footy aint it Red?


>"Must be great living in your world maxxi, where do I sign up? smiling smiley"


You don't laddie. You're in exactly the right world.


Seriously - I know you love a quibble but I feel what I feel and want what I want (you following this?) however soft you and/or any other football geniuses may think it - that's all there is left for me to say about what you think of what I say.


P.S. - I hope Moyes screws up and you get Allardyce (now that is worth a smiley) be careful what you wish for indeed.


*hums 'Play-Up Sky Blues' and sees paranormal ghost of Jimmy Hill nodding along.

You have done it now RD.....



I too am a little surprised by the hammers fans but it takes me back to when Celtic had Tony Mowbray and generally I feel the club's own fans can see what others cant, they see the decline before the neutrals and they know that no good will come of it.


I trust what maxxi and quids are saying.


I remember Celtic 0-4 St Mirren like it was yesterday. I knew he would be gone in the morning and sure enough a new opportunity.

Mick Mac Wrote:

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> Otta Wrote:

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> > Walcott out for 6 months. Bad for Arsenal, plus

> > he'll ,iss the world cup.

>

> Not a particularly big fan of him as a player but

> my heart goes out to him on missing title run in

> and world cup.


I'd swap Nani for him any day. I quite like him and he's still improving. Heard a Spurs fan on the radio trying to justify the coin throwing at him on Saturday. Cowardly idiots and stupid rule that an injured player has to be taken around the pitch.

Sounds like Moyes is at greater risk


Man United Ready to Sack Manager David Moyes

Exclusive: Man United Ready to Sack Manager David Moyes With Interim Boss Lined Up to Take Charge Until the Summer


Old Trafford side ready to ?bite the bullet? and axe their very own dead man walking.

Manchester United are preparing the ground for a possible sacking of manager David Moyes as the Old Trafford club continue to struggle to maintain consistency in their push for silverware in the Scot?s first season in charge.

CaughtOffside understands that whilst the club have adopted policy of backing the former Everton boss in public they are deeply concerned at Man United?s alarming fall from grace since Moyes took over from Sir Alex Ferguson over the summer.

Moyes had appeared to be turning something of a corner with a run of six wins across all competitions, albeit against inferior opposition, but a limp defeat at home to Tottenham was followed by a late FA Cup defeat to Swansea City, again at Old Trafford, has left the club seriously considering a mid-season managerial change.

The club?s board are looking to stand by their decision to bring in Moyes, which was predicated chiefly following the backing given to such a move by former manager Ferguson, but are also mindful that failure to secure a top four finish could be a serious blow not only to the club?s finances but also deal them a significant blow to the club?s standing among Europe?s ?Elite?.

Indeed the securing of Champions League qualification for 2014/15 is now the very least Man United are looking to garner from the current campaign and are all to aware that failing to meet this goal would also make it far harder to lure top talents to the club next summer.

Man United?s board do not want to be seen as making a knee-jerk reaction to recent results but may well feel that they are left with no choice other than to axe Moyes and are drawing up a list of potential interim manager?s who could steer the ship until the summer.

Sir Alex Ferguson is one potential candidate for the job though Man United could opt instead to allow coaches Phil Neville and Ryan Giggs to take charge until a suitable long term replacement can be found.

Man United currently sit in seventh place in the Premier League, some 11 points off top of the table Arsenal and five behind fourth placed Liverpool and though perhaps the gap to a Champions League spot is not out of sight there is little evidence that the club is making up ground on their rivals.

Man United?s home form has become a real concern and is perhaps seen as a side of just how unstable the club?s footing is at present. Incredibly David Moyes has seen his side have lost four of their last six matches at Old Trafford and the character, or lack thereof, shown by the players in these defeats is perhaps even more worrying than the results themselves.

David Moyes has recently stated that he had no immediate plans to bring in January acquisitions and this has led some to surmise that Man United are reticent to offer the manager a massive transfer fund boost this month in view of the possibility that he may be axed and that the additions he wants to bring in may not be to the liking of any potential successor.

Sir Alex Ferguson?s departure was clearly always going to send shock-waves through the Premier League club and his exit very much signaled an end to an era and the club?s squad is also seemingly heading towards a similar path.

Paul Scholes retired, for a second time, last summer and Rio Ferdinand and Patrice Evra are both likely to call time on their Man United career?s at the end of the season. Ryan Giggs may follow suit whilst injury ravaged centre-back Nemanja Vidic could also feel the time is right for a new challenge.

Wayne Rooney will apparently only discuss the possibility of extending his contract after the 2014 World Cup finals, by which time the 28 year old striker will have just one year left on his deal, which will make him vulnerable to a Man United exit, that will become all the more likely if the club have not secured a top four finish.

If this is to be another end to an era for Man United it?s looking increasingly unlikely that David Moyes will continue to take charge to lead the club into a new dawn.


oh and source ? http://manunitedlatestnews.com/man-united-ready-sack-manager-david-moyes/

Bluerevolution Wrote:

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> isn't that what all this is ? Speculation, all

> part of the game


I do think there can be genuine sources of information leaked usually to journo friends. But I could have written that article myself.


I think United have only 2 top quality players: RVP & Rooney (when he's bothered). Two with potential of being top quality, De Gea & Januzaj and several good squad players,Evans,Rafael,Jones,Valencia,Kagawa & Hernandez. Welbeck doesn't particularly impress me, several are over the hill and the rest just aren't good enough.

Could help but smile when I saw that Mr Moist is claimimg that Yanited are now having to play the referee as well as the opposition. I've got news for you Mr. Moist most clubs have felt that way about playing at the swamp for the last 20 to 25 years. And on the subject of Yanited, has there ever been a more inappropriately named player than Tom Cleverley? He gives the phrase piss poor a whole new dimension.

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