red devil Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 Do you mean the bit about Fergie still wanting power and control?.. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/35029-football-focus/page/41/#findComment-702864 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otta Posted December 10, 2013 Author Share Posted December 10, 2013 Yes.Although those are his words. But I've said before that I think it would be the decent thing for SAF to just disappear for a while, at least just watch the match from behind tinted glass in a box. Moyes was always going to have the ghost of SAF on his shoulders, but SAF is making it even harder for him! Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/35029-football-focus/page/41/#findComment-702885 Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Pibe Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 wot otta and SJ said Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/35029-football-focus/page/41/#findComment-702902 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jah Lush Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 Shades of Sir Matt Busby and Frank O'Farrell. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/35029-football-focus/page/41/#findComment-702907 Share on other sites More sharing options...
red devil Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 Surely this comes down to whether a manager is good enough or not, not because the previous manager is sitting in the stand. Sir Matt was still around in Fergie's early years, he was there the night we won our first PL title. Moyes needs to start acting like he belongs at the club, to keep referring to the club in the third person doesn't help. He also needs to cut out the negativity and excuses...transitional period, tough fixture list, injuries etc...all part and parcel of the game. He could do with showing some 'power and control'. After the Newcastle game he admitted his plan was to take RVP off after 60mins, but he didn't because he thought he would be accused of ''you don't know what you're doing''. Really? It's alright being honest, but not when it shows you up to bowing down to external pressures, thus weakening your own authority.When he was appointed I couldn't decide whether he was a good choice or not. I still can't. He should be given time but I'm losing confidence that he'll use it wisely... Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/35029-football-focus/page/41/#findComment-702928 Share on other sites More sharing options...
StraferJack Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 There is a muddled/vague feeling to both his tactics and interviews so far at utd. i wonder if players feel the same in meetingsI firmly believe having appointed him he has to be given 2 seasons but in general I agree with RD - teh whole "fergie over the shoulder" thing is, or at least should be, inconsequential Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/35029-football-focus/page/41/#findComment-702931 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jah Lush Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 One thing is for sure - he should definitely be given time. Six months in Parkhurst should do it. I jest, two seasons is about right. And get the chequebook out in January. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/35029-football-focus/page/41/#findComment-702945 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluerevolution Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 Moyes should be given all the time in the world, he's fantastic !!! Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/35029-football-focus/page/41/#findComment-702961 Share on other sites More sharing options...
red devil Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 StraferJack Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> There is a muddled/vague feeling to both his> tactics and interviews so far at utd. i wonder if> players feel the same in meetingsAgree, he even dithered over Fellaini. Why buy a player for their release clause when you can wait and pay an extra ?3-4m?Interesting that Rio openly complained about Moyes' last minute team selection. The more I think about it, the more there are lots of little things that have all added up to the perfect storm...better batten down the hatches! Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/35029-football-focus/page/41/#findComment-702964 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otta Posted December 10, 2013 Author Share Posted December 10, 2013 And he needs to give Rio a verbal slap and tell him that it's up to him when he picks his team. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/35029-football-focus/page/41/#findComment-702971 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluerevolution Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/35029-football-focus/page/41/#findComment-702973 Share on other sites More sharing options...
red devil Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 Otta Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> And he needs to give Rio a verbal slap and tell> him that it's up to him when he picks his team.Agree with the slap, but also agree with what Rio said, as I would've thought most players want time to get psyched up before a game.BR, you need to calm down, you're going to do yourself a mischief... Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/35029-football-focus/page/41/#findComment-702978 Share on other sites More sharing options...
???? Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 Man U looking solid 2nd half Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/35029-football-focus/page/41/#findComment-703015 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parkdrive Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 Keane on the documentary last night said he had real hatred for the Arsenal. I know he feels, that's how I've felt about Yanited for decades. His comments about SAF were very telling. They still haven't made up. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/35029-football-focus/page/41/#findComment-703196 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otta Posted December 11, 2013 Author Share Posted December 11, 2013 And they won't because they're as bad as each other. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/35029-football-focus/page/41/#findComment-703211 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parkdrive Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 Just now on Sky sports following the end of the Galatasaray v Juve game, Alan McCanally(hope that's how its spelt) was asked "would Manchester United fancy playing Galatasaray" to which he responded "No, the way United are playing at the moment they won't fancy playing anyone!" Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/35029-football-focus/page/41/#findComment-703213 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Mac Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 FFS. Times 6. Roobish. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/35029-football-focus/page/41/#findComment-703346 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jah Lush Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 Why don't you start a separate thread on the downfall of Celtic, Mac? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/35029-football-focus/page/41/#findComment-703384 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Mac Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 Because we never had an up Jah. When we do I will. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/35029-football-focus/page/41/#findComment-703386 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bhoy in Singapore Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 Jah? Really? Crowing from a position of mediocrity having spent 107m in the Summer? At least when we buy crap, we dont go mental. Though, I will swap you a Pukki for a Soldado ;-) Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/35029-football-focus/page/41/#findComment-703389 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCSB79 Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 I want to mock the Celtic two on here. But they are probably six and tired of having the piss taken. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/35029-football-focus/page/41/#findComment-703392 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Medic Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 Mick Mac Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> Because we never had an up Jah. When we do I will.1967 Lisbon Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/35029-football-focus/page/41/#findComment-703393 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jah Lush Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 Bhoy in Singapore Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> Jah? Really? Crowing from a position of mediocrity> having spent 107m in the Summer? > At least when we buy crap, we dont go mental.> Though, I will swap you a Pukki for a Soldado ;-)I was jesting as Mac has started separate threads from this one on for instance the downfall of Man Utd. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/35029-football-focus/page/41/#findComment-703421 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Mac Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 Jah Lush Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> Bhoy in Singapore Wrote:> --------------------------------------------------> -----> > Jah? Really? Crowing from a position of> mediocrity> > having spent 107m in the Summer? > > At least when we buy crap, we dont go mental.> > Though, I will swap you a Pukki for a Soldado> ;-)> > > I was jesting as Mac has started separate threads> from this one on for instance the downfall of Man> Utd.And Jah doesn't like people deviating from his footie thread as he used to be a headmaster and is a bit a stickler for the old rules innit. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/35029-football-focus/page/41/#findComment-703437 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jah Lush Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 A headmaster? I was good in the air but never a teacher. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/35029-football-focus/page/41/#findComment-703451 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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