Mick Mac Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 English presence in the top 10 rose from four teams to five, from six to eight in the top 20, and eight to 14 in the top 30. To put that into context, it means Stoke, Sunderland and Swansea all generated more revenue than storied clubs such as Porto, Lazio, Corinthians and CelticEdited to add - we should not be proud of this particularly as we all (or most of us) pay for all of this through the Sky rip off subscriptions. No other country settles for the cost of provision. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/35029-football-focus/page/178/#findComment-816536 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otta Posted January 22, 2015 Author Share Posted January 22, 2015 Following on from that you could argue that we pay for it with our beer money, because the pubs that show it have to pay so much for the Sky license. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/35029-football-focus/page/178/#findComment-816589 Share on other sites More sharing options...
red devil Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 Mick Mac Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> No other country settles for the cost of provision.Not sure what you mean Mick, can you elaborate please?I thought the TV money was negotiated as a collective by the PL, and then distributed amongst the clubs dependent on TV showings and final league positions, whereas in Spain it's negotiated club by club, meaning Madrid and Barca get the lion's share regardless, thus maintaining their hegemony.I'm no fan of all the money sloshing around the game at the moment, but I think one upshot is that the PL seems to have become far more competitive with the so called lesser clubs getting this fairer share of the TV money. Wasn't there a stat last season (the first year of the new Sky deal), that Cardiff, who were relegated, received more ?? than Man Utd did when we won the PL the season before under the old deal?... Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/35029-football-focus/page/178/#findComment-816600 Share on other sites More sharing options...
spaul88 Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 its all about money. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/35029-football-focus/page/178/#findComment-816893 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Medic Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 I think you could picked a better list of storied clubs Mick. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/35029-football-focus/page/178/#findComment-816905 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Mac Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 That's right RD - its good that's its shared - but when Stoke, who have never won anything to my knowledge, are generating more income than for example Porto, twice European champions and in the champions league on a regular basis makes you wonder who is paying for all of this Stoke money - someone is paying over the market rate somewhere and guess what it's football fans paying through the nose for TV and tickets. We stupidly accept it and say how brilliant our league is - but we are just paying into the EPL via Sky etc and the clubs pass that money out to overpaid players. People crow about best league in the world, but that's just us being suckers. The EPL and Sky are together the most expertly marketed product in the world of football, and we are the customer. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/35029-football-focus/page/178/#findComment-816917 Share on other sites More sharing options...
???? Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 Stoke won the League Cup in the 70s they knocked out West Ham in an epic semi-final in which Bobby Moore had to go in goal and saved a penalty (the save of the penalty may be my memory going) Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/35029-football-focus/page/178/#findComment-816918 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Medic Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 He did, sort of. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/35029-football-focus/page/178/#findComment-816924 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Medic Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 The Italian league which was once considered the best has gone downhill. Seems even Milan sold their team bus to save money. The leagues that have the money usually have the best teams. It was more even in the past where most teams were made up of players from their own country as extra money by going abroad wasn't a lure. Television and the money it generates has changed everything.In the long term it will have an adverse effect as what would be the young supporters of today and the fans of tomorrow find it too expensive to attend games. Crowds will eventually dwindle at matches and too much football on TV will affect advertising revenue as people get bored watching so much football. Half full stadiums don't look good on tele and it will become less attractive to the TV companies as less people watch. We may eventually get back to the stage where players are paid a less than stupid wage and less players go abroad. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/35029-football-focus/page/178/#findComment-816936 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Mac Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 Lets hope so. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/35029-football-focus/page/178/#findComment-816995 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otta Posted January 23, 2015 Author Share Posted January 23, 2015 That Dunn in the Cambridge goal has some good reflexes. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/35029-football-focus/page/178/#findComment-817006 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Mac Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 Strange result. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/35029-football-focus/page/178/#findComment-817014 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jah Lush Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 Not really. It's the FA Cup. Anything can happen. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/35029-football-focus/page/178/#findComment-817018 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otta Posted January 24, 2015 Author Share Posted January 24, 2015 http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/30962427Not entirely sure how the ref was against them. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/35029-football-focus/page/178/#findComment-817046 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Mac Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 Jah Lush Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> Not really. It's the FA Cup. Anything can happen.No shit Sherlock....:) smiley added Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/35029-football-focus/page/178/#findComment-817084 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Medic Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 Quote of the year Mr.Lush. I can't help laughing especially at Chelsea and Man.City whose preparation was a holiday. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/35029-football-focus/page/178/#findComment-817104 Share on other sites More sharing options...
???? Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 Chelsea, City, Spuds...Ha Ha Ha Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/35029-football-focus/page/178/#findComment-817151 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Mac Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 The big clubs don't give a hoot about the FA Cup, unless they accidentally make it to the semi finals... Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/35029-football-focus/page/178/#findComment-817196 Share on other sites More sharing options...
???? Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 Job Done Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/35029-football-focus/page/178/#findComment-817315 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otta Posted January 25, 2015 Author Share Posted January 25, 2015 I don't know if Liverpool count as a big club, but I think they wanted it yesterday and fielded a pretty strong team from what they have. So pleased Sturridge is due back, but we need more than just him. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/35029-football-focus/page/178/#findComment-817318 Share on other sites More sharing options...
???? Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 Mick's confusing the Mickey Mouse competitions north of the Border with our fine English ones Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/35029-football-focus/page/178/#findComment-817320 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jah Lush Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 Alan Medic Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> Quote of the year Mr.Lush. I can't help laughing> especially at Chelsea and Man.City whose> preparation was a holiday.Thank you. You're welcome. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/35029-football-focus/page/178/#findComment-817324 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackwelts Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 who is still left in the cup? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/35029-football-focus/page/178/#findComment-817400 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parkdrive Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 ???? Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> Chelsea, City, Spuds...Ha Ha HaChelsea bringing on Hazard at 2-2 to change the game, and the game certainly did change..........for the worse Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/35029-football-focus/page/178/#findComment-817426 Share on other sites More sharing options...
StraferJack Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 The Amex stadium is a 10 minute drive away from me but I couldn?t get ticketsGame was on BT sport so had to watch it in the pubCouldn?t get in to any pubs in Lewes until gone 3pm ? home and away supporters were out in force and a cracking atmosphere around townHad to do my old ?watching Arsenal in an away pub? routine from my East Ham days (supporters were friendly ? I just didn?t want to antagonise)I like Hughton a lot and wanted us to win, but not to inflict reputational damage on him ? so was well pleased by the end of the day Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/35029-football-focus/page/178/#findComment-817433 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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