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Mick Mac Wrote:

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> The only good thing about tonight is the penny

> might drop with the board that you don't get into

> the champions league for free, you need to invest,

> and if you blend lack of investment with the wrong

> manager, you are buggered.

>

> On tonights score, this team is not good enough

> for any European competition.

>

> Slight reluctance to write off the manager is that

> Strachan lost 5-0 in his opening CL qualifier and

> failed to qualify. Next season beat AC Milan and

> Benfica to make the last 16, but this guy looks

> real bad so far, real bad.




And he still looks real bad....


Bhoy in Singapore, how do you feel now.

"Uneasy" would be the best way to describe how I feel. To be fair though, I dont get to see any of the games here so I can only make a judgement on the results themselves. To be in sixth place in the league though is fairly damning. I would give him another 10 league games and if things dont change, i think the situation needs to be reviewed. I think Jackie McNamara could be a contender as replacement. Not sure John Collins was the best choice as assistant. He comes across as a self righteous "male chicken", actually Ronnie isnt too far behind him. Anyone who doesnt thinks chips are a great idea must be a bit suspect!

Bad day at the office for Arsenal weekend wasn't it - not only did we wearily predictably not match up to our supposed peers, but teams all around us jumped ahead of us


My favourite bit was towards the end when Wellbeck came in from right of screen like a Warner Brothers cartoon character and completely upended Fabregas. I almost hear the cartoon sounds in my head


Totally uncalled for and should have been a red of course

StraferJack Wrote:

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> Bad day at the office for Arsenal weekend wasn't

> it - not only did we wearily predictably not match

> up to our supposed peers, but teams all around us

> jumped ahead of us

>

> My favourite bit was towards the end when Wellbeck

> came in from right of screen like a Warner

> Brothers cartoon character and completely upended

> Fabregas. I almost hear the cartoon sounds in my

> head

>

> Totally uncalled for and should have been a red of

> course


And not as bad as Cahill who wasn't shown a red card. As I've said before, Ozil ansd Sanchez are "nice to have" but there weren't priorities for us. We still need a world class CB, DMF, and striker. When we have those, maybe we'll make some progress. Or maybe when we get Debuchy, Giroud, and Walcott back, things may change.

of course you could point out the Cahill tackle and other incidents that didn't go our way - but really, why bother. Won't change a single thing, not least the fact that the better team did win. And we would have to say we could have had 2 or 3 red cars of our own

StraferJack Wrote:

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> and we could have had a few of our own - so where

> do you stop?

>

> Wenger was right to protest at the time - but

> after that... it's irrelevant


And if Cahill had seen red the course of the game may change, and his offence was prior to the incidents you refer to. Doubtless you still don't see that as relevant.

???? Wrote:

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> We've a great DMF who would be just the ticket for

> you guys....Song :).

>

> PS Thanks for Cresswell too X X


Song has been decent for you but will turn into a liability, or non existent before too long, just as he did for us and Barca.

yeah a few other fans have made the Song point - in the great exodus of Arsenal players to City and Barcelona, he was the onew few tears were shed over (and I was an early supporter of his)


Then again - maybe some people can change and he has matured. He has the talent

StraferJack Wrote:

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> yeah a few other fans have made the Song point -

> in the great exodus of Arsenal players to City and

> Barcelona, he was the onew few tears were shed

> over (and I was an early supporter of his)

>

> Then again - maybe some people can change and he

> has matured. He has the talent


That's be because he turned into a lazy son of a bitch.

Maybe, but he's been immense. All over the pitch and he's not fully fit yet. My only critcism is that he's a bit too used to the better ball control of playing with Barcelona (ok...and Arsenal) so his distribution to our technically inferior players puts them under pressure :)

El Pibe Wrote:

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> more reasons to dislike Liverpool FC, like I needed any...


https://sports.vice.com/article/why-liverpoo

> l-let-its-neighborhood-go-to-hell



So what are your reasons then, why Liverpool over any other team? (other than the fact you lost to us in an FA Cup final)

The football circus at the top is all pretty loathsome isn't it, and Liverpool are no worse than Chelsea, and their fans no worse (on the whole) than Man U, though there are of course lovely (misguided) people who support them, well here anyway.


I dunno, the closing ranks around suarez (several times) really irked though. Not a hint of 'hands up that's unsupportable, but he is good and you took on paulo after he pushed a referee, or bowyer twice depsite him being a racist thug' yeah fair point would have been my response. Nope, they defended and attacked and over a number of issues always the same.

ootball fans are hardly great representatives of anything, but my club right or wrong is as bad as my country right or wrong, well fair enough but i hope you lose....every...time....


Yeah, that was our FA Cup and it still hurts, but I didn't take it personally to Liverpool then, so it wasn't that.



I grant you you did exactly all the good things i described but then you're a nice intellignet person, exception rule bloke who is even willing on occassion to say liverpool were gash and deserved to lose, not a trait common amongst your fellow fans whereas it de rigeur as a west ham fan!! (though met a few arseholes down there in my time!!!!)

The Saurez racism thing was handled badly. The biting thing I'm not so sure about because I still think it's more funny than dangerous (but am not getting involved in that discussion again).


The article you posted above probably holds a lot of truths, but it defo reads like something written by someone with an axe to grind.


But they've been trying to move since I lived there, so something has clearly not gone well, and way before Hicks & Gillet came and made everything worse. New owners have inherited a shambles, and seem to be trying to resolve it, so am more sympathetic to them. Someone is always going to be unhappy.





Nice to get a win this weekend though.

The Suarez was handled extremely badly and why the club ever thought wearing T shirts in support of the player was a good idea only they will know. And don't forget the shirt burning when it was widely thought Stevie G was off to the chavs.Perhaps it's all part of that world famous scouse sense of humour.

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