Football Focus

[Otta]

Mick Mac Wrote:

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> Will be interesting to see if there is any truth

> in that - if it is true then Man United are

> smarter than I thought - but also slightly

> pessimistic (turned realistic) in looking towards

> the prospect of non performance.

I know this doesn't mean there is any truth in it, but I did read that on the beeb "gossip column" earlier, think it was from The Mirror. And I think it's pretty shitty. Normally I don't really feel for sacked managers as they will be very well compensated (as Moyes will be even if this clause does exist), but in this case it's the sheer level of public humiliation the bloke has had to endure which does make me feel for him.

Managers should go and meet fans right at the start of their reigns and get a feel fro what is expected of them. All the talk of the way he spoke to the press (calling Liverpool favourites, saying they passed well on Sunday) reminded me very much of the slating Roy Hodgson got from Liverpool supporters for paying United too much respect.

Personally I think supporters should grow the fuck up, but I am a minority.

[Otta]

Parkdrive Wrote:

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> Otta Wrote:

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> > Moyes would not fit Spurs at all. He just

> doesn't

> > do attacking football.

> >

> > The thing that gets me about this is simply how

> > much the players seem to have publically

> > undermined him. I think clubs should fine

> players

> > everytime they speak out of line on social

> media,

> > they are paid massive sums of money, and that

> > should be enough to buy their loyalty.

>

>

> You and I both know that is a very idealistic

> view, very very few players are loyal regardless

> of the obscene amounts they receive.

I agree that most players aren't loyal in terms of requesting transfers and stuff, but I do think that the money they are paid should be enough to at least stop them from publicly questioning their manager, and the clubs should come down hard on that shit.

[Jah Lush]

I see Mourinho's parked the bus.

[Otta]

Commentators go on about a great defending performance, and yeah I appreciate you need to win these matches.

But good God Chelsea are boring to watch.

I'll be pretty happy with a point when they come to Anfield. But I would love it if we could unpick them and beat the buggers!

Would especially love to see suarez make a fool of Terry.

But basically will be happy if we don't lose and pick up a point.

[titch juicy]

Can't blame them for the tactics tonight- as boring as it is to watch. They can cut loose too when they need to- which as a Spurs fan I have all too painfully seen with my own eyes. Arsenal fans the same.

At the end of the day they were in an away semi- final to the team top of la liga.

[StraferJack]

terry injured for Sunday tho isn't he?

[red devil]

I heard that both Cech and Terry will be out for the season, Terry may make CL final if they get there.

0-0 is a dangerous result for Chelsea, Athletico like to sit back and break, so I think they will score at the Bridge.

Also heard that Bale is out tonight with 'flu, shame, was looking forward to seeing his pace against Bayern's high line defence...

[Parkdrive]

Jah Lush Wrote:

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> I see Mourinho's parked the bus.

He parked the whole fcuking depot, never mind the bus.

[Otta]

Haha, that made me laugh PD.

Yeah I also heard that Cech and Terry were out, but I figured I'd wait for the team sheet as I don't quite trust Jose... Paranoid? Me?

[Parkdrive]

Under Maureen, the Chavs CL semi final scores have been 0-0, 0-1, 1-0, 0-0. Approx I goal scored 480 minutes including extra time. Riveting.

[Otta]

Manchester United fans everywhere are shitting themselves today after the club announces that "Sir Alex Ferguson will play a key role in choosing David Moyes' replacement as manager".

[StraferJack]

I've just seen someone point out the Brasil 2014 world cup logo is basically a facepalm

can't be unseen

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:WC-2014-Brasil.svg

(not as bad as the Lisa simpson blowie for London Olympics mind you)

[Parkdrive]

Otta Wrote:

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> Manchester United fans everywhere are shitting

> themselves today after the club announces that

> "Sir Alex Ferguson will play a key role in

> choosing David Moyes' replacement as manager".

Man U fans should respond with a "Nah you're alright"

[Mick Mac]

Otta Wrote:

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> Manchester United fans everywhere are shitting

> themselves today after the club announces that

> "Sir Alex Ferguson will play a key role in

> choosing David Moyes' replacement as manager".

That narrows it down to someone 1) Scottish, 2) who has never managed a big club and 3) never won anything but 4) could potentially have hair, with a hint of ginger.

Got it: It's Moyes again.

[red devil]

Mick Mac Wrote:

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> That narrows it down to someone 1) Scottish, 2)

> who has never managed a big club and 3) never won

> anything but 4) could potentially have hair, with

> a hint of ginger.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/07/22/article-2374092-1AEF6204000005DC-269_306x423.jpg

See you Jimmy...

[maxxi]

red devil Wrote:

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> I heard that both Cech and Terry will be out for

> the season, Terry may make CL final if they get

> there.

Even if he has to crawl over broken glass he won't miss a chance to play be in the photo.

Mick Mac Wrote:

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> -narrows it down to someone 1) Scottish, 2) who has never managed a big club and 3) never won anything but 4) could potentially have hair, with a hint of ginger.

> Got it: It's Moyes again.

Or Fergie.

[Otta]

StraferJack Wrote:

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> I've just seen someone point out the Brasil 2014

> world cup logo is basically a facepalm

>

> can't be unseen

>

> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:WC-2014-Brasil.s

> vg

>

> (not as bad as the Lisa simpson blowie for London

> Olympics mind you)

Haha, as you say, not as good as Lisa Simpson, but still pretty good.

[Mick Mac]

maxxi Wrote:

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> Mick Mac Wrote:

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> > -narrows it down to someone 1) Scottish, 2) who

> has never managed a big club and 3) never won

> anything but 4) could potentially have hair, with

> a hint of ginger.

>

> > Got it: It's Moyes again.

>

> Or Fergie.

Ha - Hadn't thought of that possibility.

Giggs will be presented to the press sitting on Sir Alex's knee with SAF's hand up his backside.

"Just move your mouth son, I'll do the talking."

[red devil]

You been on those dodgy websites again Mick?...

[Otta]

Moyes statement

"To have been appointed as manager of Manchester United, one of the biggest football clubs in the world, was and remains something of which I will always be incredibly proud.

"Taking charge after such a long period of continuous stability and success at the club was inevitably going to be a significant challenge, but it was one which I relished and never had a second thought about taking on.

"The scale of the manager's job at United is immense, but I have never stepped away from hard work and the same applies to my coaching staff. I thank them for their dedication and loyalty throughout the last season.

"We were fully focused and committed to the process of the fundamental rebuilding that is required for the senior squad. This had to be achieved whilst delivering positive results in the Barclays Premier League and the Champions League. However, during this period of transition, performances and results have not been what Manchester United and its fans are used to or expect, and I both understand and share their frustration.

"In my short time at the club I have learnt what special places Old Trafford and Carrington are. I would like to thank the United staff for making me feel so welcome and part of the United family from my first day. And of course thank you to those fans who have supported me throughout the season. I wish you and the club all the best for the future.

"I have always believed that a manager never stops learning during his career and I know I will take invaluable experience from my time as United's manager. I remain proud to have led the team to the quarter finals of this year's Champions League and I remain grateful to Sir Alex Ferguson for believing in my ability and giving me the chance to manage Manchester United."

No thanks for the players.

[Mick Mac]

These things tend to be written/agreed between the two teams of lawyers dealing with the termination to ensure there is no damage to reputations of any party.

[El Pibe]

precis

"the players were cunts and so were some of the fans.

Gis a job please somebody"

[titch juicy]

Real Madrid v Bayern

81% possession for Bayern first half. Should be 3-0 Madrid.

Fascinating football.

[Parkdrive]

Mick Mac Wrote:

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> These things tend to be written/agreed between the

> two teams of lawyers dealing with the termination

> to ensure there is no damage to reputations of any

> party.

Bit late for that after whats gone on, damage has been done

[titch juicy]

http://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/tottenham-weigh-up-gamble-on-david-moyes-9281480.html

Be surprised if it happened, as he gambled with AVB after a bad spell with one club preceeded by a great spell with another.

But,I'm sure if you looked back at most big manager's histories there would be a dodgy spell that they moved on from and got stronger. So i think it's a bit early to say that Moyes is doomed to fail in the rest of his career just because he couldn't follow in the footsteps of the greatest manager this country, possibly the world, has ever seen.

The pressure on Moyes to succeed at United was horrendous, especially after being handpicked by Ferguson. There'd still be pressure on him if he came to Spurs, but a different kind. He'd have pressure to succeed where others have failed- a better kind of pressure I reckon.

I'd call it as not a bad option.