red devil Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 Jumpers for goalposts... Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/35029-football-focus/page/317/#findComment-1190383 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Medic Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 Morata: Can't see myself staying in London longClarifies comment: Can't see myself staying in London long after I stop playing football. Would probably sign a 10 year contract with Chelsea if offered one.Of course you would. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/35029-football-focus/page/317/#findComment-1190492 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parkdrive Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 Puts me in mind of a certain Wayne "blue for life"Rooney, who signed for Manchester United. The modern footballer has no understanding of the concept of loyalty. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/35029-football-focus/page/317/#findComment-1190580 Share on other sites More sharing options...
red devil Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 They do, they just have different loyalties than what fans have... Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/35029-football-focus/page/317/#findComment-1190598 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Medic Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 I read extracts of his interview and I could understand someone from abroad not settling here. That's fair enough. What makes me laugh though is that he was most likely telling the truth initially and then on advice some up with this 10 year contract which is pure bull****. As for loyalty, well it's a career and can be a short one. Rooney moving from Liverpool to Manchester was not because of cultural differences. Morata preferring to move back to Spain or even Italy is a different kettle of fish. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/35029-football-focus/page/317/#findComment-1190609 Share on other sites More sharing options...
red devil Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 He fibbed about wanting to join Chelsea in the first place, he was all set on joining MU until Utd surprised everyone and got Lukaku instead... Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/35029-football-focus/page/317/#findComment-1190611 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Medic Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 I forgot that. Did United choose wisely do you think Red? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/35029-football-focus/page/317/#findComment-1190618 Share on other sites More sharing options...
red devil Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 I'd say Lukaku's experience and ability to cope with the rough and tumble of the PL gives him the edge. Morata has already picked up niggling injuries. Neither is in Kane's class at the moment... Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/35029-football-focus/page/317/#findComment-1190627 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parkdrive Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 red devil Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> They do, they just have different loyalties than> what fans have...The only loyalty they have is to money. As Harry Redknapp once said, all that badge kissing is bollocks. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/35029-football-focus/page/317/#findComment-1190749 Share on other sites More sharing options...
red devil Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 Why should players be the only ones to show loyalty? The clubs themselves don't, they're more than happy to get rid of a player when it suits... Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/35029-football-focus/page/317/#findComment-1190769 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Mac Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 red devil Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> Why should players be the only ones to show> loyalty? The clubs themselves don't, they're more> than happy to get rid of a player when it suits...Absolutely agree - it tends to be the clubs that sign the players up to long contracts, not always to retain them but to make sure they don't lose out - the length of some of the long contract signed only reflects both parties covering themselves in the event of a better offer. its often reported as "this contract will keep "A" at the club until "2077".....which is nonsense. Of course transfer fees are payments of compensation for mutually agreed breaches of contract as agreed between the willing selling club and the willing buying club. The club is always a willing seller otherwise there would be no deal. But I do think that where loyalty should be expected is in respect of loyalty to a manager. Not giving your all / player power / player mutiny, all of these get my goat and modern players are very much guilty of this blackmailing of club to replace a manager they don't particularly like. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/35029-football-focus/page/317/#findComment-1190803 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parkdrive Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 red devil Wrote:------------------I -------------------------------------> Why should players be the only ones to show> loyalty? The clubs themselves don't, they're more> than happy to get rid of a player when it suits...Because, rightly or wrongly, they are the embodiment of the club to most fans. It's they that take part in the 90 minutes of drama played out on the pitch. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/35029-football-focus/page/317/#findComment-1190829 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Medic Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 For the most part players give 100% on the pitch, which is about as much loyalty you can expect in that profession. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/35029-football-focus/page/317/#findComment-1190845 Share on other sites More sharing options...
red devil Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 Fans sign up to a club for life, players don't. Maybe they did in the olden days, when players were local and the club was very much part of the community. You probably only find that spirit in non-league clubs these days... Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/35029-football-focus/page/317/#findComment-1190851 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parkdrive Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 One of the major irritants for fans is the amount of money they pay to watch players who are paid the sort of money it would take them several lifetimes to earn in the space of a year and don't demonstrate the same passion as the fans. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/35029-football-focus/page/317/#findComment-1190963 Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxxi Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 If the loss wasn't bad enough having that sh1t stick Allardyce on MOTD made it unbearable... And Moyes??? No no no no no no!!! Christ no. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/35029-football-focus/page/317/#findComment-1191588 Share on other sites More sharing options...
red devil Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 Moyes would be a total disaster, far too negative both in terms of persona and style of play. Totally the wrong type of manager that West Ham need right now... Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/35029-football-focus/page/317/#findComment-1191717 Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxxi Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 Well Slav's gone - can only hope Moyes will be a temporary apptmnt Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/35029-football-focus/page/317/#findComment-1192012 Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxxi Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 If Phukwit Neville joins him I foresee a bigger revolt than when BFS reigned... Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/35029-football-focus/page/317/#findComment-1192022 Share on other sites More sharing options...
red devil Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 Don't worry, PhilNev says Moyes is a fantastic manager, so no need to panic...http://troll.me/images/home-simpson-panic/home-simpson-panic.jpg Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/35029-football-focus/page/317/#findComment-1192048 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Mac Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 maxxi Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> Well Slav's gone - can only hope Moyes will be a> temporary apptmntHe'll make sure it is... Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/35029-football-focus/page/317/#findComment-1192162 Share on other sites More sharing options...
red devil Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 I'm just glad football contracts aren't binding. Moyes would've had another 2 years left on his Utd contract... Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/35029-football-focus/page/317/#findComment-1192473 Share on other sites More sharing options...
red devil Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 A shame about NI, all that good work in qualifying, undone. Hope the boys in green do better... Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/35029-football-focus/page/317/#findComment-1193466 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Medic Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 As they say, 0-0 is a dangerous result. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/35029-football-focus/page/317/#findComment-1194222 Share on other sites More sharing options...
red devil Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 Indeed, learnt that from the CL... Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/35029-football-focus/page/317/#findComment-1194263 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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