Sue Posted July 12, 2024 Share Posted July 12, 2024 I recently booked a dental checkup at Dulwich Dental Office in North Cross Road. I had stopped going there because during COVID I was disappointed to find that the very small reception area upstairs, and the receptionist, appeared to be very lax indeed about social distancing or taking other precautions. After their refurb and taking over the old Lloyds premises downstairs, I thought I would give them another chance. I was very taken aback to find that among the usual preliminary form filling re medical conditions etc was a questionnaire asking questions such as was I worried about wrinkles 🙄 Yes, I have wrinkles. I'm ancient. I'd rather not have them, but I have no intention of spending shedloads of money to look like an ancient person who has spent shedloads of money on work to make it look as if she hasn't got wrinkles. Are young people being asked this as well? Young people who are worried that they might be getting a wrinkle? Or weren't worried before, but are worried now that this potential worry has been put into their heads? Then when I got to the actual dentist, there was a large notice on the wall advertising Botox, even although the room itself did not appear to be set up for anything apart from dentistry. Is this common practice now? Can anybody recommend a good local dentist who won't try to sell you a trout pout and a face lift alongside making sure your teeth are not about to fall out? I was only reminded of this because Dulwich Dental Office have just sent me a survey asking me to rate them. Apparently they will then send me their "secret free guide on how to keep a healthy smile forever". Dentists used to tell you how to look after your teeth and gums as a matter of course. No longer, apparently. Unless this guide just suggests you have all your teeth extracted and replaced at vast expense by artificial ones that won't rot? Why is the guide secret? It is so secret that they haven't sent it to me, probably because when I got their request for a review I fed back something along the lines of the above. Sorry for the long post. 1 2 Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/347844-local-dentists-branching-out-from-teeth/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kathleen Olander Posted July 12, 2024 Share Posted July 12, 2024 My dentist is Daniel Hopkins at Half Moon Dental Practise in Herne Hill, he is brilliant and keeps up to date with all the latest dental technologies. Mrs Sida-Murray from Goose Green is now in a very spectacular looking practise in Dulwich Village. Both practises are just Dental! 1 Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/347844-local-dentists-branching-out-from-teeth/#findComment-1672429 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewWave Posted July 12, 2024 Share Posted July 12, 2024 I've noticed it seems to be the 'modern world' that dentists now offer a sideline of botox and the like and cosmetic dentistry too..invisilign,veneers etc. I'm like you old school (and old!) I want my dentist to look at my teeth not the lines on my forehead. I go to Damira dental in Penge (out of the way I know but the 176 stops opposite) they take NHS and private and I moved there about 5 years ago when my former dentist kept trying to push cosmetic dentistry on me (veneers and all that jazz) and trying to tell me that it would 'protect my teeth' blah blah. Damira are good and refered me to kings when I had an issue that needed an 'ondodontist' (no I'd never heard of it either) highly reccomed and the reception staff emily and Sharon are both lovely! Good hygenists there too. 1 Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/347844-local-dentists-branching-out-from-teeth/#findComment-1672435 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sue Posted July 12, 2024 Author Share Posted July 12, 2024 (edited) Thank you, both! Do dentists have catchment areas, like GPs? Edited July 12, 2024 by Sue Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/347844-local-dentists-branching-out-from-teeth/#findComment-1672447 Share on other sites More sharing options...
I hammer Posted July 12, 2024 Share Posted July 12, 2024 Maybe they meant 'worried about wrinkles on your teeth' Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/347844-local-dentists-branching-out-from-teeth/#findComment-1672462 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sue Posted July 13, 2024 Author Share Posted July 13, 2024 On 12/07/2024 at 22:13, I hammer said: Maybe they meant 'worried about wrinkles on your teeth' Expand Now that would be a real cause for worry 🤣 1 Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/347844-local-dentists-branching-out-from-teeth/#findComment-1672500 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclemonkey Posted July 13, 2024 Share Posted July 13, 2024 My dentist offers this sort of stuff. It doesn't unduely bother me as I just decline. It is an easy additional income stream for dentists as they have the expertise and equipment for cosmetic facial injections. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/347844-local-dentists-branching-out-from-teeth/#findComment-1672502 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sue Posted July 13, 2024 Author Share Posted July 13, 2024 On 13/07/2024 at 09:55, Cyclemonkey said: My dentist offers this sort of stuff. It doesn't unduely bother me as I just decline. It is an easy additional income stream for dentists as they have the expertise and equipment for cosmetic facial injections. Expand Their dentistry training surely doesn't cover cosmetic issues unrelated to teeth? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/347844-local-dentists-branching-out-from-teeth/#findComment-1672512 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclemonkey Posted July 13, 2024 Share Posted July 13, 2024 (edited) No they will get extra training for the cosmetic stuff, but my point is dentists are already experienced in carrying out facial injections. Edited July 13, 2024 by Cyclemonkey Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/347844-local-dentists-branching-out-from-teeth/#findComment-1672513 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sue Posted July 13, 2024 Author Share Posted July 13, 2024 On 13/07/2024 at 10:21, Cyclemonkey said: No they will get extra training for the cosmetic stuff, but my point is dentists are already experienced in carrying out facial injections. Expand Injections for anaesthetising gums, not for injecting botox into lips and "wrinkles" ! Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/347844-local-dentists-branching-out-from-teeth/#findComment-1672538 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenijenjen Posted July 13, 2024 Share Posted July 13, 2024 I think I'd prefer a dentist to carry out the procedure than many others who offer the service. Hypothetical really, it's not something I'd ever consider Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/347844-local-dentists-branching-out-from-teeth/#findComment-1672540 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kathleen Olander Posted July 13, 2024 Share Posted July 13, 2024 On 12/07/2024 at 19:22, Sue said: Thank you, both! Do dentists have catchment areas, like GPs? Expand Private ones don't, not sure about NHS. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/347844-local-dentists-branching-out-from-teeth/#findComment-1672582 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewWave Posted July 13, 2024 Share Posted July 13, 2024 On 12/07/2024 at 19:22, Sue said: Thank you, both! Do dentists have catchment areas, like GPs? Expand No I live near the Horniman museum, I found the dentist through a neighbour who has now moved to Camberwell but still goes there 1 Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/347844-local-dentists-branching-out-from-teeth/#findComment-1672587 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogkennelhillbilly Posted July 13, 2024 Share Posted July 13, 2024 On 13/07/2024 at 10:18, Sue said: Their dentistry training surely doesn't cover cosmetic issues unrelated to teeth? Expand Any Tom, Dick or Harry can give botox and other filler infections without any training or licensure... https://www.policybee.co.uk/blog/can-anyone-train-to-give-botox-uk Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/347844-local-dentists-branching-out-from-teeth/#findComment-1672595 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alec1 Posted July 14, 2024 Share Posted July 14, 2024 They have some excellent dentists working there. I am sure they have other specialists doing the other stuff, as I doubt most dentists have the time to do much else. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/347844-local-dentists-branching-out-from-teeth/#findComment-1672596 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sue Posted July 14, 2024 Author Share Posted July 14, 2024 On 14/07/2024 at 01:59, Alec1 said: They have some excellent dentists working there. I am sure they have other specialists doing the other stuff, as I doubt most dentists have the time to do much else. Expand I wasn't questioning anybody's expertise. I don't mind professional people sharing premises. What I strongly object to is making an appointment for a routine dental checkup and then being asked whether I am worried about cosmetic issues which have nothing to do with my teeth or my health. It's bad enough getting old without it being suggested by a dental surgery that you should be worried about how you look (and if I had ticked "yes" I presume I would have then been given information about all their cosmetic treatments). What next? Are GPs going to go down this route as well? 1 Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/347844-local-dentists-branching-out-from-teeth/#findComment-1672600 Share on other sites More sharing options...
malumbu Posted July 14, 2024 Share Posted July 14, 2024 They are businesses looking to increase their revenue. But in fairness whilst my practice has a TV in the waiting room that advertises cosmetic dentistry, my dentist has never suggested to me that I need it, Fortunately we don't live in America 1 Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/347844-local-dentists-branching-out-from-teeth/#findComment-1672604 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sue Posted July 14, 2024 Author Share Posted July 14, 2024 On 14/07/2024 at 07:53, malumbu said: They are businesses looking to increase their revenue. But in fairness whilst my practice has a TV in the waiting room that advertises cosmetic dentistry, my dentist has never suggested to me that I need it, Fortunately we don't live in America Expand Cosmetic dentistry is at least related to teeth! 1 Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/347844-local-dentists-branching-out-from-teeth/#findComment-1672605 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azalea Posted August 18, 2024 Share Posted August 18, 2024 This practice is now advertising on this Forum. How did you find the actual checkup? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/347844-local-dentists-branching-out-from-teeth/#findComment-1676302 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sue Posted August 18, 2024 Author Share Posted August 18, 2024 (edited) On 18/08/2024 at 10:35, Azalea said: This practice is now advertising on this Forum. How did you find the actual checkup? Expand What section are they advertising in? I haven't seen any adverts or posts from them? They recently sent me another email asking me to review them, so I can only assume they didn't read my first email 🙄 The actual checkup was ok, it was quick, they took x rays. I presume they didn't find anything wrong. They didn't suggest I saw a hygienist, so my gums etc must be ok. Edited August 19, 2024 by Sue Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/347844-local-dentists-branching-out-from-teeth/#findComment-1676339 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenijenjen Posted August 19, 2024 Share Posted August 19, 2024 I went there a couple of times a few years ago. Dental exam was fine and was persuaded to see the hygienist "the whole half hour will be spent cleaning your teeth." Fine. Except it wasn't. Before the cleaning process even began, half the time was spent aggressively trying to persuade me to undergo further more expensive treatment. So I changed dentists who have never even suggested I undergo this further treatment and my gums are doing fine. 1 Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/347844-local-dentists-branching-out-from-teeth/#findComment-1676378 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sue Posted August 19, 2024 Author Share Posted August 19, 2024 On 19/08/2024 at 06:05, Jenijenjen said: I went there a couple of times a few years ago. Dental exam was fine and was persuaded to see the hygienist "the whole half hour will be spent cleaning your teeth." Fine. Except it wasn't. Before the cleaning process even began, half the time was spent aggressively trying to persuade me to undergo further more expensive treatment. So I changed dentists who have never even suggested I undergo this further treatment and my gums are doing fine. Expand Oh dear. 1 Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/347844-local-dentists-branching-out-from-teeth/#findComment-1676399 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penguin68 Posted August 19, 2024 Share Posted August 19, 2024 The hygienist will have been rewarded for upselling, possibly on a %age basis. Not I think the most acceptable practice in a quasi health context. But increasingly the norm, I'm afraid, and particularly where looks and not (just) health are being sold. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/347844-local-dentists-branching-out-from-teeth/#findComment-1676402 Share on other sites More sharing options...
claresy Posted August 20, 2024 Share Posted August 20, 2024 I'm not happy that my perfectly good family dentist is now 'dental beauty' and instead of a service that felt personal I have to listen to long recorded messages and fill in questionnaires promoting expensive aesthetic extras. I was put out to read a question that I thought said 'Would you like even more teeth?'. On closer inspection it said 'Would you like more even teeth?'! 🙂 1 Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/347844-local-dentists-branching-out-from-teeth/#findComment-1676522 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azalea Posted August 20, 2024 Share Posted August 20, 2024 On 18/08/2024 at 15:09, Sue said: What section are they advertising in? I haven't seen any adverts or posts from them? They recently sent me another email asking me to review them, so I can only assume they didn't read my first email 🙄 The actual checkup was ok, it was quick, they took x rays. I presume they didn't find anything wrong. They didn't suggest I saw a hygienist, so my gums etc must be ok. Expand Pop up type adverts. I clicked on one as I wanted to see which dental practice it was. Haven’t seen it since. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/347844-local-dentists-branching-out-from-teeth/#findComment-1676524 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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