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Recovering from Dreadful Sunday Travel.


Thought I would have a relaxing Sunday by the River at Richmond..


37 bus stuck in traffic at Brixton.... Then diversion before Clapham Junction... so took 1 Hour..


337 destination board 8 mins -- 7 - 6 - 5 - 4 - 3 - 2 - 1 - due - due -due ----- 16 mins. eventually came..

Another 50 mins to reach Richmond.. Incredible traffic.


Richmond was Rammed. hardly anywhere to sit down..


Normally take a walk to The White Swan in Twickenham by the River but decided to walk the other way to Kew..

The walk along the River to Kew is not a pretty one, with little river activity. Even the planes were not flying overhead.


Sign at Richmond sign said Kew 1 1/4 miles... after 2,500 steps, 20-25 mins sign said Kew 1 1/4 miles..


Eventually reached Kew Gardens.. That's nice I thought last time I was here Kew Gardens was 1p One Old Penny..

Well I was expecting it to of gone up a bit but ?16.00 plus they ask for a donation..(Optional)

and car drivers have to pay ?6.50 to use their car park .


Walked on expecting Kew to have some riverside pubs like Richmond or Twickers... There is Nothing there..


Walked over the Bridge .. There is no town ???? went to Kew Station.. train aproaching . tried to swipe Oyster but people in front

were having trouble with built in ticket machine.... The terain doors shut in my face.. so I missed the train..


Finally swiped card only to find next train was 50 mins . Now left with a swiped Oyster card .... Swiped out at Kew..


No useful bus service.. back across bridge..


Took boat ride to Westminster 1 Hour .. Wonderful... relaxing.....


Just need to get 12 bus back to Dulwich.. 1st Bus.. Elephant & Castle... 2nd Bus Elephant & Castle...3rd Bus Elephant & Castle...

spoke to driver who told me that the 12 Bus does NOT go to Dulwich.. from Westminster.. Well it does. so had to go to the Elephant and change...


Then got on a 176 to Penge.... They changed drivers just before Camberwell Green 10 min delay... then when we got to Camberwell Green ... 1 Stop.

There was an announcement that the bus was terminating and we were told to dissembark


People got off but the bus was still taking new passengers from the front.. Big row and we were all told to get back on....


Finally got back to East Dulwich.. Wrecked...


29 Deg C walked over 8 miles in total. with just 500ml water. and no food all day


Foxy

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Don't be so mean, TT. The point of the post is to remind us all that walking aimlessly around, without looking into what you might find or how long it might take to get there, is not always fun. Particularly on a very hot day. And also to point out that travelling from South East to West London, by bus, takes a long time.


We should be appreciative of Foxy's research.

Fox, I'm sorry you had a bad day, but Google (before you set out) is your friend :)


There are often transport issues in London at weekends.


And Kew hasn't been a penny to get in for - oh, about fifty years :))


And surely you could have taken food/water with you or found somewhere to buy some? There are shops in both Richmond and Kew (by the station).


And to expect anywhere near the river, especially which has riverside pubs like Richmond, not to be rammed on a scorching hot Sunday was a bit naive, maybe? Personally I think it's quite nice to be somewhere where there are lots of people on a lovely day all enjoying the weather.


And the walk from Richmond to Kew along the river is a very pleasant and leafy one, if memory serves, I can't understand why you thought otherwise.


You should have walked round the corner to The Actress and watched the tennis, instead :))

I do the Richmond trip several times a year..


It is a very pleasant bus ride. (Normally)


The walk To Twickenham is very pleasant with several riverside Pubs at the end.


Not so for Kew with the walk taking 3 times as long.



TopTree Today, 09:56AM


What is the point of your post ? Do you just need to get more friends to talk to? Or is it a cry for help because you have no friends?


Point of post was to highlight state of transport...

No not looking for more friends.. I do the Richmond walks to get away from people.


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El Pibe Today, 10:27AM



Overground Denmark Hill -> Clapham J 16 mins

train Clapham Junction -> Richmond 9 mins


Schoolboy error?


Fully aware of all alternative routes.

I like the bus journey..


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Sue.

And surely you could have taken food/water with you or found somewhere to buy some? There are shops in both Richmond and Kew (by the station).


Did not go to Richmond to walk around the shops.. otherwise I would of gone to Oxford Street.

They may well of proved worse.


Supposedly the reason the 12 bus could not continue from Elephant to Dulwich was because Regent st was closed.

Work that one out.


Sue Said "Personally I think it's quite nice to be somewhere where there are lots of people on a lovely day all enjoying the weather."


It was like a street market, Rammmed, you could not even get into the pubs and restaurants.

An standing outside a Youngs pub with a plastic 'glass' after queing for 20 mins is really not my idea of fun.


The walk from Richmond to Kew has the river on the left and a very stagnant stream to the right.

There are many diseased trees. It is also quite hazardous with dozens of cyclist who tear along that narrow path.

there are no turn offs and no pubs. not even when you get to Kew. Well there is a pub my the station.



You should have walked round the corner to The Actress and watched the tennis, instead ..


I went out to Avoid the bloody tennis...

I suspect that is the reason Richmond was so busy.. People avoiding the Tennis...


Foxy.

DulwichFox Wrote:

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>

>

> Did not go to Richmond to walk around the shops..

> otherwise I would of gone to Oxford Street.

> They may well of proved worse.

>

>

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So you did not take food or much water with you, but did not want to "walk around the shops".


How were you expecting to eat, then, if you didn't want to go to a cafe or restaurant, of which there are many around Richmond and quite a few around Kew?


If memory serves there are shops where you can buy food right next door to both Richmond and Kew stations, which is hardly "walking around the shops" :))


Does anything make you happy, Foxy? Ever?? :(

Sue I did intend to eat during the day..

I never take food when I go out..


And water @ ?3.00 a litre makes East Dulwich look cheap


I did think I might find an Indian open. The ones I passed on the way to the river were closed.

There was one open but it would of cost be ?30.00 for a simple curry/ rice / pops / and a beer.


So thought I would wait.


I did not have any reason to go to Richmond Station which I have been to before

to meet people at the nearby cafes.


There are no shops either side of Kew Bridge. There is a pub next to the Station.

I realised when I saw the old water works ?? I once went to Kew in 1970 for a course

There are many new developments, mostly offices and industrial.


It was a mistake to go there. After 40 years had totally forgotten what Kew was like.


The only shop is a Sainsbury.


Does not look that Kew has a centre like Richmond say.

and nothing on the river.

Kew was deserted. I think people go there just for the Gardens.



My thread is about the time I spent waiting for buses... and buses being cancelled, stopping short of destination.


Like I said Richmond is a regular trip which I enjoy. That's why I went. Just everything went wrong.



>> Does anything make you happy, Foxy? Ever??


Many things..


Do not think many folk would of been happy with the problems I had with public transport yesterday.


Foxy

Foxy


A safer, less hazardous walk, not relient on Public Transport can be taken in on Saturday. The walk takes in the historic route of the Barry Barry Road Race. Walking boots will be dubbed at 13.30 in the beer garden at The Plough. Hydration shouldnt be a problem either.

Help-Ma-Boab Wrote:

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> Foxy

>

> A safer, less hazardous walk, not relient on

> Public Transport can be taken in on Saturday. The

> walk takes in the historic route of the Barry

> Barry Road Race. Walking boots will be dubbed at

> 13.30 in the beer garden at The Plough. Hydration

> shouldnt be a problem either.


I walk Every day.. locally... Usually before I eat. Can always buy water on route..


Some walks are longer than others..


One of my walks is East Dulwich - Hearn Hill - Brixton - Oval - Camberwell - East Dulwich. 17,000+ steps.

9-10 miles..


Generally go for 10,000 steps with a 5,000 step minimum.. power walking depending on knee . Old 'war' wound.


That was also a prob yesterday. Half way to Kew my knee went which slowed me down.


Foxy

I think you are a far too advanced a walker for Saturdays amble by the sound of it.



DulwichFox Wrote:

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> Help-Ma-Boab Wrote:

> --------------------------------------------------

> -----

> > Foxy

> >

> > A safer, less hazardous walk, not relient on

> > Public Transport can be taken in on Saturday.

> The

> > walk takes in the historic route of the Barry

> > Barry Road Race. Walking boots will be dubbed

> at

> > 13.30 in the beer garden at The Plough.

> Hydration

> > shouldnt be a problem either.

>

> I walk Every day.. locally... Usually before I

> eat. Can always buy water on route..

>

> Some walks are longer than others..

>

> One of my walks is East Dulwich - Hearn Hill -

> Brixton - Oval - Camberwell - East Dulwich.

> 17,000+ steps.

> 9-10 miles..

>

> Generally go for 10,000 steps with a 5,000 step

> minimum.. power walking depending on knee . Old

> 'war' wound.

>

> That was also a prob yesterday. Half way to Kew

> my knee went which slowed me down.

>

> Foxy

Next time, take the train instead (and check the timetable/status first). Go somewhere which has things you want to do and see (and are within your budget), restaurants you want to eat in, shops that sell water, etc.


Enjoy the British summer, and stop being such a miserable mangy old fox.

Jeremy Wrote:

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> Next time, take the train instead (and check the

> timetable/status first). Go somewhere which has

> things you want to do and see (and are within your

> budget), restaurants you want to eat in, shops

> that sell water, etc.

>

> Enjoy the British summer, and stop being such a

> miserable mangy old fox.



Jeremy.. the whole point of my trip was the bus journey.

Just yesterday went wrong.. I normally travel to Richmond , walk to Twickers, have a beer

walk back to Richmond 337, 37 back to Dulwich.


All started after I won a Raffle in 2008 in the Clock House. The prize was 6 Tickets for a Rowing boat

for the day at Richmond Bridge.


Had a great day on the river...


Rowed to Twickers.. Now I walk there.


Some pics below.


not such a miserable mangy old fox.



Foxy

Sue Wrote:

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> DulwichFox Wrote:

> --------------------------------------------------

> -----

>

> > Some pics below.

> >

> > not such a miserable mangy old fox.

> >

> >

> > Foxy

>

> xxxxxxxxxx

>

> I like the tee shirt Foxy :))


I got in St Antonia Ibiza... :)


It lasted for many years, but sadly has now gone.


Foxy

Jeremy Wrote:

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> If the whole point is the bus ride, you must be a

> glutton for punishment!

>

> Glad you're feeling less grumpy now.

>

> Are you in that pic? None of those people fit my

> mental image...


My mum & dad used to take me to Richmond When I was 5 years old..

In those days the 37 went from Peckham Bus Garage all the way to Richmond. about an hour in those days.


I am at the front with the 'fish' T-shirt.


Foxy..

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