Otta Posted July 6, 2013 Share Posted July 6, 2013 Quids and SJ's regular little digs at each other are sort of amusing in a slightly uncomfortable way. Quids often refers to "Guardian Readers" as a label for what I guess he sees as soft lefty liberals. I sometimes agree with his stance and sometimes don't.Anyway, my point is, are there people out there who genuinely see THEMSELVES as a "Guardian Reader", or indeed a "Nameofanypaper Reader" in that they feel that the paper they read goes some way to defining them as a person?I don't personally read the papers, but I guess if I did, The Guardian would be closest to my political views, but I find all newspapers really annoying. I find most columnists just smug in their comfort zone.Not quite sure where I'm going with this, just Quids' use of the term, and other forumite's (not always SJ) responses, which suggest they feel that Quids is talking about them. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/33953-who-would-happily-be-defined-by-their-choice-of-paper/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
HonaloochieB Posted July 6, 2013 Share Posted July 6, 2013 Does the NME count? Cause I use it. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/33953-who-would-happily-be-defined-by-their-choice-of-paper/#findComment-659614 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bellenden Belle Posted July 6, 2013 Share Posted July 6, 2013 Thinking about this in the last twenty years I've lost track of how many different employers, houses, even boys I've had. I'm fickle and contrary - it's just the way I am.And yet through it all I've read the Guardian. Don't know why I started - I come from a Sun/ Daily Mail reading family. But it's been a constant and so probably does define me in a certain way. It irritates me sometimes, bores me even - but when I flirt with other papers I always miss it.I always check out what people are reading and I always feel slightly more comfortable when I see a guardian tucked under the arm. It's secret code for 'I'm a bleeding heart liberal who enjoys an organic crust too" and quite frankly I might as well embrace it, because after all these years it's the one certainty. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/33953-who-would-happily-be-defined-by-their-choice-of-paper/#findComment-659618 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marmora Man Posted July 6, 2013 Share Posted July 6, 2013 Not, I hope, defined by my paper because I read many papers through the average week. However, would consider myself a broadsheet reader rather than a tabloid reader. Overall, I see more of the right of centre papers than left of centre (so Guardian / Times ratio probably close to 1 : 5) but generally an omnivore.Not sure I could love anyone that defined themselves by their newspaper. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/33953-who-would-happily-be-defined-by-their-choice-of-paper/#findComment-659621 Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Pibe Posted July 6, 2013 Share Posted July 6, 2013 Oh to be able to sit and read a paper. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/33953-who-would-happily-be-defined-by-their-choice-of-paper/#findComment-659627 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voyageur Posted July 6, 2013 Share Posted July 6, 2013 El Pibe Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> Oh to be able to sit and read a paper.Get your work life balance sorted - life's too short not to! Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/33953-who-would-happily-be-defined-by-their-choice-of-paper/#findComment-659630 Share on other sites More sharing options...
malumbu Posted July 6, 2013 Share Posted July 6, 2013 Daily Mail = Daily HateDaily Express would be similar, but no one reads itBuy the Grauniad for the TV guide on a Saturday. Peed off with the increased price in the last couple of yearsThat 20p Indie looks good. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/33953-who-would-happily-be-defined-by-their-choice-of-paper/#findComment-659661 Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodrot Posted July 6, 2013 Share Posted July 6, 2013 I did a long stint of Guardin, as the postgrad common room of one of my universities has them for free each day.The Times still produces good worldwide news copy, as does the Gaurdian- pretty consistantly. What kills me with the giardian is the comumnists- how do these people get away with it ? Guarden weekend pack, apart from the guide, makes me want to eviscerate myself in budgensFor the Lols, then you have to follow Melanie Phillips and Burchill, wherever they are. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/33953-who-would-happily-be-defined-by-their-choice-of-paper/#findComment-659667 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bessie1974 Posted July 7, 2013 Share Posted July 7, 2013 If the roads to hell are paved with good intentions, then the Guardian would be the ideal sat-nav to get you there.Also these is something deeply disingenuous about harping against elitism but putting your own kids in private schools for example ( Poly Toinbee et al hope your Tuscan wine is to your taste). Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/33953-who-would-happily-be-defined-by-their-choice-of-paper/#findComment-659672 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otta Posted July 7, 2013 Author Share Posted July 7, 2013 woodrot Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------What kills me with the giardian is the comumnistsExactly! Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/33953-who-would-happily-be-defined-by-their-choice-of-paper/#findComment-659688 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy Posted July 7, 2013 Share Posted July 7, 2013 We all know people who smugly wave the guardian around in an effort to display their left wing credentials. But it kind of invites it by being a) the only mainstream left wing paper and b) the only broadsheet to wear it's political heart on its sleeve so prominently. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/33953-who-would-happily-be-defined-by-their-choice-of-paper/#findComment-659699 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Medic Posted July 7, 2013 Share Posted July 7, 2013 Otta Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> woodrot Wrote:> --------------------------------------------------> -----> What kills me with the giardian is the comumnists> > > > Exactly!Communists? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/33953-who-would-happily-be-defined-by-their-choice-of-paper/#findComment-659709 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lilly Potes Posted July 7, 2013 Share Posted July 7, 2013 Hola Babe we are talking about the group Abba here hahaha you know about MONEY MONEY MONEY MONEY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! OR SHALL WE PAY AND LET THEM GO ......................... LIKE A GOOD FOOTBALL..........................................................IF YOU DON'T PLAY RIGHT YOU CAN INJURE YOUR KNEE. GLAD TO READ A LOT OF LOVES AND CUDDLES ON MY FACE BOOK AND TWITTER AND MAMA MIA . HOW MANY OUT THERE READING THE SAME THING. I WISH I WAS FAMOUS LIKE NIGELLA LAWSON'S TO DO WHAT I WANT BUT UNFORTUNATLY IN MY CASE I HAVE TO FIND A NANNY JOB FIRST. :( Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/33953-who-would-happily-be-defined-by-their-choice-of-paper/#findComment-659711 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeckhamRose Posted July 7, 2013 Share Posted July 7, 2013 I read the Huffington Post. Happy to be defined by that. Mainly because I don't give a damn how people want to judge or define me. It's how they treat me that counts. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/33953-who-would-happily-be-defined-by-their-choice-of-paper/#findComment-659727 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HonaloochieB Posted July 7, 2013 Share Posted July 7, 2013 I get or take if you prefer, the Sunday Times, I don't read all of it, obviously, no one does, I get it for Ade Gill and a few others/features.I'm aware that sometimes people point as I return from the newsagent and pass remarks such as 'Fat features', 'What an overblown article' and 'God, why would anyone want to give that house room?' I can regard them with pitying disdain, safe in the knowledge that many don't get us ST readers. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/33953-who-would-happily-be-defined-by-their-choice-of-paper/#findComment-659742 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annette Curtain Posted July 7, 2013 Share Posted July 7, 2013 National Inquirer, but stapled into The Observer Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/33953-who-would-happily-be-defined-by-their-choice-of-paper/#findComment-659756 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salsaboy Posted July 7, 2013 Share Posted July 7, 2013 Saturday Times for me. No time in the week for anything. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/33953-who-would-happily-be-defined-by-their-choice-of-paper/#findComment-659757 Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveo Posted July 7, 2013 Share Posted July 7, 2013 Just porn for me Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/33953-who-would-happily-be-defined-by-their-choice-of-paper/#findComment-659758 Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncleglen Posted July 7, 2013 Share Posted July 7, 2013 Private Eye Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/33953-who-would-happily-be-defined-by-their-choice-of-paper/#findComment-659759 Share on other sites More sharing options...
StraferJack Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 ", but I find all newspapers really annoying. I find most columnists just smug in their comfort zone. "on this point I'd have to partly disagree. Compared to TV news, which I almost literally cannot watch, newspapers (as a medium) are great. I think they are in trouble and close to being a relic from a bygone age, but words will continue to matter even as images gain in currencyIt is newspapers which have broken the sort of important stories that require investigation, leads, revelations (Telegraph and expenses scandal, Guardian and the newscorp/police/politicians collusion etc)TV news just sort of shows things that are obviously happeningColumnists are what they are - there are only so many decent ones and they are spread thinly across all of the papers. But news alone, without opinion would make for a very dry read. And even the bad ones have to turn around a substantial amount of copy in a short space of time - with their mugshot attached it can look likey they are being smug, but it's a jobI started reading via newspapers (before books even) at a really young age and my regulars (in chronological order):Cork Examiner (now gone national as Irish Examiner)Today (before Murdoch took it over - at the time I had no knowledge of HIM but I immediately saw the paper I was reading turn to shiteTimes/Telegraph for a few months (early days in UK I went from apolitical to not-rightwing-but -DEFINITELY-not-left-wing, to oh-tunrs-out-I-am-a-leftie-really)Guardian But I will read any of the "broadsheets" and with twitter being what it is, I tend to have a pretty even split of articles across the titles these daysI'm pretty close to abandoning a daily newspaper purchase - that feels wrong to me but there just isn't enough meat in any of them to justify me spending the cash. There has been a softening across all papers in terms of celeb/soft features as they try and attract more readers I understand the dilemma from an editorial point of view and I have no idea how they copeI don't think as many people self-identify as "paper x" readers compared to how many people like to dismiss the views of others by painting them as "paper x" readers Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/33953-who-would-happily-be-defined-by-their-choice-of-paper/#findComment-659856 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otta Posted July 8, 2013 Author Share Posted July 8, 2013 I agree that papers have often gone and found the news, as opposed to just reporting it.The columnist thing just bugs me because the majority of them know they're writing to a captive audience with a particular political leaning, and they just pander to that. That's what I meant by "smug in their comfort zone". Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/33953-who-would-happily-be-defined-by-their-choice-of-paper/#findComment-659858 Share on other sites More sharing options...
StraferJack Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 oh but the factions and sub-factions within a leaning, Otta!But another good benefit of paper versus TV - you can just avoid the bits you don't want to read, and not wait for a segment to be over Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/33953-who-would-happily-be-defined-by-their-choice-of-paper/#findComment-659860 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otta Posted July 8, 2013 Author Share Posted July 8, 2013 I think TV News, even the formerly good C4 News, has just become more and more tabloid. The reporting and interview styles just make me angry. I tend to hust read the BBC website to be honest. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/33953-who-would-happily-be-defined-by-their-choice-of-paper/#findComment-659862 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mousey McP Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 Southwark News... Born n Bred in Southwark....... Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/33953-who-would-happily-be-defined-by-their-choice-of-paper/#findComment-659864 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnL Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 Love reading a newspaper properly - Guardian, Standard or refresh my memoriesfrom home Wales on Sunday/South Wales Evening Post - they're so indignant :)More and more picking and mixing bits from social media and websites - you end up reading Indian/Australian and mid US sites.. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/33953-who-would-happily-be-defined-by-their-choice-of-paper/#findComment-659920 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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