Ifti Posted July 5, 2013 Share Posted July 5, 2013 Muslim AcademiesAcademies bill will enable a radical overhaul of England's schools, giving every school the chance to convert to an academy and giving parents the right to create free schools outside the control of LAs.The new schools will drive up standards and the education would be in accordance with the needs and demands of the parents. It will help native Brits, Muslims, Hindus, Sikhs and other minorities to set up their own schools for the education of their children. It is nothing to do with integration or segregation. Segregation already exists in British schoolings, it is not going to widen. President Obama supports free schools in America because they have benefitted the least well off the most. Educating children is the priority.It is wrong to assert that a small unrepresentative group of Muslim activists tried to Islamises a state primary school in Woking. The silent majority of Muslim parents would like to send their children to state funded Muslim schools. They are not extremists who want to change of ethos of those schools where Muslim children are in majority. It is the democratic right of every Muslim parent to see that their children receive balanced education, so that when their children grow up, they do not find themselves cut off from their cultural roots and linguistic skills. It is a question of common sense, humanity and reason that bilingual Muslim children must be educated in state funded Muslim schools with bilingual Muslim teachers as role models during their developmental periods. The whole world believes that people who speak more than one language is a vital economic asset. Pupils who speak more than one language do not cause difficulties. It is the politicians and monolingual teachers who are the problems for bilingual pupils. Muslim school will help to cultivate the child into a healthy, fully flourishing individual with a passion for learning. There are hundreds of state and church schools where Muslim children are in majority. In my opinion, all such schools may be opted out as Muslim Academies.Muslim schools are not only faith schools; they are more or less bilingual schools. Bilingual Muslim children need to learn and be well versed in Standard English to follow the National Curriculum and go for higher studies and research to serve humanity. State schools with monolingual teachers do not teach Standard English to Migrant children. Bilingual Muslim children learn English in the playgrounds and in the streets. They speak street language with its own grammar, vocabulary and pronunciation. The teachers let them speak the same accent in the classroom. They have no courage to stop them or correct them. This is one of the main reasons why one third of children have difficulties with reading when they leave primary schools. Majority of such children are Muslims. In other European countries and in the sub-continent argot and slang are not allowed into the classroom. In Britain primary school teachers do not feel that it?s their role to interfere with self-expression in any shape or form. They encourage children to read poems and stories written in ethnic dialects.Muslim faith schools are more or less bilingual schools. Priority will be given to the teaching of Standard English, Arabic, Urdu and other community languages. All Muslim children will learn and be well versed in Standard English and Quranic Arabic and at the same time they will learn and be well versed in one of the community language to keep in touch with their cultural roots and enjoy the beauty of their literature and poetry. Majority of children will learn Urdu language because it is a lingua franca of the migrants from the sub-continent. And majority of British Muslims are from Pakistan and their national language is Urdu. Iftikhar Ahmad Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/33940-muslim-academies/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodrot Posted July 5, 2013 Share Posted July 5, 2013 cool story bro' Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/33940-muslim-academies/#findComment-659410 Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncleglen Posted July 5, 2013 Share Posted July 5, 2013 You say '....reason that bilingual Muslim children must be educated in state funded Muslim schools with bilingual Muslim teachers as role models during their developmental periods' and you say it is nothing to do with segregation- yeah right- there should be NO faith schools- people are free to worship their imaginary friend outside of state funded institutions and I object to my tax money being used to spread homophobia and other views expressed as a result of brainwashing. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/33940-muslim-academies/#findComment-659429 Share on other sites More sharing options...
womanofdulwich Posted July 5, 2013 Share Posted July 5, 2013 I find it hard enough that Muslim children ( and others for religious reasons) can be withheld from sex edcuation for religious reasons.Yet all the safeguarding training I have goes on about FMG - why can't all children been told ? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/33940-muslim-academies/#findComment-659432 Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncleglen Posted July 5, 2013 Share Posted July 5, 2013 We don't want to upset anyone do we womanof dulwich? During PSHE when dealing with Equality, equality of male and female is discussed, equality for the disabled is discussed- but LBGT issues are never on the agenda in the faith school- you would think since laws have been passed this would be compulsory. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/33940-muslim-academies/#findComment-659436 Share on other sites More sharing options...
???? Posted July 5, 2013 Share Posted July 5, 2013 Brilliant, actually huge racist undertones about teaching proper english rather than the street slang encouraged in state primaries or in your deeply offensive words '...written in ethnic dialects', ...and other such rubbish. Why should my tax go to your seperatist, racist rubbish?The Guardian readers will no doubt remain silent, but if your name was Toby Young rather than Ifti they'd be all over you full of scorn and contempt. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/33940-muslim-academies/#findComment-659446 Share on other sites More sharing options...
StraferJack Posted July 5, 2013 Share Posted July 5, 2013 I think guardian readers are silent e cause its an unintelligible post by a first time poster trolling. But knock yourself out with your weird passive aggressive jibes Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/33940-muslim-academies/#findComment-659447 Share on other sites More sharing options...
StraferJack Posted July 5, 2013 Share Posted July 5, 2013 Plus, yknow... Tennis and that Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/33940-muslim-academies/#findComment-659448 Share on other sites More sharing options...
purplehaze Posted July 5, 2013 Share Posted July 5, 2013 So you're against free schools and academies me too Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/33940-muslim-academies/#findComment-659449 Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxxi Posted July 5, 2013 Share Posted July 5, 2013 Agree with uncleglen - there should be no faith schools - in fact religion should have no part in anything funded by taxpayers, by which I mean references to the big beardy non-existent one should be dropped from courts, the military, parliamentary procedure etc etc. - if the Girl Guides can do it, we all can. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/33940-muslim-academies/#findComment-659450 Share on other sites More sharing options...
StraferJack Posted July 5, 2013 Share Posted July 5, 2013 It's basically spamSearch the first sentence on googlehttp://www.londonschoolofislamics.org.uk/DiscView.asp?mid=48807&forum_id=1&It's a pile of horseshit with no leverage in the real world (unlike.. Say... Toby youngs school malarkey). But hey ho. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/33940-muslim-academies/#findComment-659454 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianr Posted July 5, 2013 Share Posted July 5, 2013 He provides some personal background information in his contributions at http://www.thisiscroydontoday.co.uk/discussions/civilisation-measured-rights-grants-majority/discussion-17217708-detail/discussion.html#axzz2YCn3BBav Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/33940-muslim-academies/#findComment-659460 Share on other sites More sharing options...
???? Posted July 5, 2013 Share Posted July 5, 2013 StraferJack Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> I think guardian readers are silent e cause its an> unintelligible post by a first time poster> trolling. But knock yourself out with your weird> passive aggressive jibesRude personalising it coont (and it,s by no means the first time, I just tend to let it go). Always as nice as pie to my face.....and I,m passive aggressive? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/33940-muslim-academies/#findComment-659475 Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodrot Posted July 5, 2013 Share Posted July 5, 2013 terribly dull first post bro' - give your kids a chance in life - single faith schools just perpetuate the doctrianre idiocy of formalised religion - dont fuck them up as well Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/33940-muslim-academies/#findComment-659486 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ifti Posted July 5, 2013 Author Share Posted July 5, 2013 Thousands of community schools would be handed over to Church of England to improve the standard of education, according to Gove. There are hundreds of state and church schools where Muslim children are in majority. In my opinion, all such schools may be opted out as Muslim Academies.IAhttp://www.londonschoolofislamis.org.uk Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/33940-muslim-academies/#findComment-659488 Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodrot Posted July 5, 2013 Share Posted July 5, 2013 I have just had a look at some of your other posts you have spammed elswhere captain" have been campaigning for state funded Muslim schools for the last 40 years because British schooling is the home of institutional racism and British teachers are chicken racists. British teachers are not role models for Muslim children during their developmental periods.I set up the first Muslim school in London in 1981 and now there are about 170 Muslim schools and only 12 are state funded. I would like to see each and every Muslim child in a state funded Muslim school with bilingual Muslimteachers as role model. There is no place for a non-Muslim child or a teacher in a Muslim school.Western media and politicians have been trying their best to propagate against Muslim schools. Muslim schools are even called Osama bin Laden Academies by a Teaching Union. Only less than 5% of Muslim children attend Muslim schools while more than 95% are in state schools to be mis-educated and de-educated by non-Muslim monolingual teachers."You are a cunt of the highest order. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/33940-muslim-academies/#findComment-659490 Share on other sites More sharing options...
???? Posted July 5, 2013 Share Posted July 5, 2013 Not as bad as Toby young tho hey Straefer? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/33940-muslim-academies/#findComment-659491 Share on other sites More sharing options...
StraferJack Posted July 5, 2013 Share Posted July 5, 2013 Is he more mental than TY? Hell yeahDoes he wield as much influence? NoSo... Worse? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/33940-muslim-academies/#findComment-659497 Share on other sites More sharing options...
???? Posted July 5, 2013 Share Posted July 5, 2013 Toby young is not stuck in medieval dogma or racist. His sin is to a be a bit of a pompous arse and not be a lefty as far as I can see. Makes him the enemy to you I know, with your tedious black and white view of the world. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/33940-muslim-academies/#findComment-659503 Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodrot Posted July 5, 2013 Share Posted July 5, 2013 OP is just a lone nutter. TB is a twat with good PR. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/33940-muslim-academies/#findComment-659505 Share on other sites More sharing options...
numbers Posted July 5, 2013 Share Posted July 5, 2013 if this was started by a troll then it must be pretty happy its work is done if its causing a spat between regular posters :( Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/33940-muslim-academies/#findComment-659506 Share on other sites More sharing options...
StraferJack Posted July 5, 2013 Share Posted July 5, 2013 Crikey it's coming out now. "Tedious black and white view of the world". Righto Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/33940-muslim-academies/#findComment-659507 Share on other sites More sharing options...
StraferJack Posted July 5, 2013 Share Posted July 5, 2013 Am I spatting, numbers? Really? I'm slightly taken aback but not spatting. My first post questioned why someone would do an oft repeated guardian baiting thing based on the op but apart from that... Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/33940-muslim-academies/#findComment-659508 Share on other sites More sharing options...
numbers Posted July 5, 2013 Share Posted July 5, 2013 wasn't directed at anyone specifically sorry if that was not clear just meant that if trolls like to shit stir then their work is done here that's all! Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/33940-muslim-academies/#findComment-659509 Share on other sites More sharing options...
StraferJack Posted July 5, 2013 Share Posted July 5, 2013 I did say the op was trolling but I think I was wrongI meant spamming Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/33940-muslim-academies/#findComment-659510 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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