Northcross Road - Market traders (Lounged)

[macroban]

> Are the Ross brand of fish fingers any good?

Ask *Bob*: he brought them up.

[Jeremy]

Maybe I was!

[*Bob*]

If they don't come from the Captain's Table, count me out.

Don't take my word for it - look at this scientific poll

[clive3300]

Louisa Wrote:

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> You'll probably end up

> travelling outside of London one day and seeing a

> bit more of life,

>

> Louisa.

Louisa, why is being hopelessly poor and having no choice in anything such a virtue?

It really sounds like you would have really liked to have grown up in communist Russia: Where everything, if available, was cheap, shoddy and just the same as everyone else. Definitely no one was having any illicit fun buying nice things for pleasure.

This is the 21st century: Society has prospered since the 70s / WW2 and in fact most people can afford to live on a lot more than 60shillings a week. In fact lots of people in this town make lots of money and enjoy spending it on good stuff and having a good time. This expenditure employs a lot of people too.

If you cant see this, you are not going to be happy living in one of the worlds most successful financial capitals at the zenith of its history. Can I suggest a move to Pyong Yang? No yummy mummies there.

[*Bob*]

Don't get sucked-in, Clive.

Louisa has a good job, wireless internet and occasionally works on a laptop in the garden of the valuable home she owns - recently undervalued (apparently) by Foxtons, I believe.

So.. under the monotonous bluster, she is, in fact, very SE22, darling.

[clive3300]

*Bob* Wrote:

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> Don't get sucked-in, Clive.

> Louisa has a good job, wireless internet and

> occasionally works on a laptop in the garden of

> the valuable home she owns - recently undervalued

> (apparently) by Foxtons, I believe.

>

> So.. under the monotonous bluster, she is, in

> fact, very SE22, darling.

A laptop ::o? Whats wrong with a good old pencil and paper? Some people, really are above themselves.

Actually how about a piece of coal on a piece of old newspaper previously wrapping fish (from Somerfield, of course)?

[macroban]

> one of the worlds most successful financial capitals at the zenith of its history

Surely that zenith was July 2007?

[Louisa]

clive3300, I would hardly describe London at the zenith of it's history. London is a decaying, grubby city which was once the capital of a huge empire, and is now the only half decent thing the UK has going for it (aside from Ken Dodd), so please dont patronise me with the b*llocks about how this wonderful great capital city is so great, we all know the UK has had it, and is on a gradual downward spiral.

DPF, Bromley is wealthier than ED, shows how much you know lmao, and please dont lecture me on how poor people eat the wrong types of food, you're not exactly a nutritionist yourself areyou sweet pea?

BJL thanks for reinforcing my point btw, keep up the good work.

Louisa.

[Cassius]

Louisa Wrote:

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> clive3300, I would hardly describe London at the

> zenith of it's history. London is a decaying,

> grubby city which was once the capital of a huge

> empire, and is now the only half decent thing the

> UK has going for it (aside from Ken Dodd), so

> please dont patronise me with the b*llocks about

> how this wonderful great capital city is so great,

> we all know the UK has had it, and is on a gradual

> downward spiral.

>

Did you read that in The Daily Mail or the Daily Express?

[SeanMacGabhann]

That glass certainly is half-empty isn't it Louisa?

Do you really believe the UK was a better place to live for most of it's population when it had it's empire?

(actually, sod the UK population - how did the people "conquered" by the British army feel about it!)

The UK is infinitely preferable to many places in to the world as a place to .. well, be alive!

But as the accusation is out there - where is better and can you think of any downsides to there?

[Dulwich_ Park_ Fairy]

DPF, Bromley is wealthier than ED, shows how much you know lmao, and please dont lecture me on how poor people eat the wrong types of food, you're not exactly a nutritionist yourself areyou sweet pea?

I said closer to Bromley, somewhere like Catford maybe. And you're the one who makes absurd statements about what the working classes (aka real people) want to eat, I think battered sausages topped your list. You know, sensible sausages for sensible people.

[Mark]

Bromley is wealthier than ED

it even has its own council. Bromley Council tax is greater than Southwark's.

[KalamityKel]

hehe as interesting as the read is I've lost the subject of this thread :-S

re-cap anyone?

[Louisa]

No I think just by reading from official statistics which show that nearly 300,000 people a year are emigrating permanantly out of the UK to live elsewhere in the world, we can come to the conclusion that large numbers of people no longer see this country as being worthy of spending the rest of your life here. That was not a statistic from a tabloid newspaper, but then middle class people cannot appreciate that, If people genuinely cannot see that a small island nation with very few natural resources and dependent on a service sector economy isnt going to head further up the creek within the coming century then they obviously are living in the ED version of neverland.

Louisa.

[Asset]

Northcross Rd market is for poncey middle class twits and what we need is a proper working person's market (in a nutshell)

[mockney piers]

twinkle: You're all mad, it's obvious it's a hedge

chorus: Erm, it's walking with a waddle, it has elongated mouth parts and emits quacks, hedges it ain't I should know I once fell in one.

twinkle: Cor Blimey you're stupid if you're falling in hedges, you've just reinforced my point, I'm right, I'm right, everyone else is wrong.

chorus:*sigh*

Christ. If I wanted conversations like this I'd phone my dad!!!!

For the record Britain was at it's Zenith around the 1840's when it sat on it's laurels and failed to enjoy the creativity and investment it had done in the previous 40 years. The likes of Germany and France were in the ascendancy then, though thanks to our having an industrial head start, a kleptoparasitic foreign policy, and making an absolute killing from foisting opium on the Chinese (at one point providing one third of the entire British government's income) we kept up the pretences of primacy until the first world war.

I wouldn't like to have been a middle class londoner then, and I can guarantee you that had you been a working class londoner then, you'd be dead by now!!

*edited to clarify now meaning your age, not now meaning 2008, which should really go without saying.....get's coat* :-$

[Louisa]

I bet DPF and the DPF family are all skinny under nurished pastey individuals who eat bizarre mixtures of supposedly organic produce for tea every night. Where did battered sausages come from? You really are bugging me now with your absurd remarks. Stop it please.

Mockney, If i were born in 1840, I am almost certain that death would have come 70 years + ago darling.

Louisa.

[KalamityKel]

or VERY old Mockers :p

[SeanMacGabhann]

So there is a country somewhere on the world where a smallish proportion of it's population aren't emigrating???? OOOH do tell me where!!!!

If the UK does take a nosedive it will be because it alienated itself from all of it's neighbours and trading partners

Ireland is an even smaller island with less natural resources and it will be fine.. just fine..

[clive3300]

Louisa Wrote:

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> clive3300, I would hardly describe London at the

> zenith of it's history. London is a decaying,

> grubby city which was once the capital of a huge

> empire, and is now the only half decent thing the

> UK has going for it (aside from Ken Dodd), so

> please dont patronise me with the b*llocks about

> how this wonderful great capital city is so great,

> we all know the UK has had it, and is on a gradual

> downward spiral.

> ...

> Louisa.

I had intended to mean in terms of wealth (the point of my original post) - but rereading, I see that isnt quite what I wrote.

London was mostly hideous by modern standards until well after the 2nd world war. Shared houses and outdoor ablutions were almost the rule even into the 70s. Am busy reading a book called "London in the 20th Century". Quite an eye opener.

At the end of Victoria's reign it was indeed the capital of a huge empire, but by modern standards was very much a "developing world" city. Probably lower than modern south american cities in wealth.

London is a pretty mixed rich/poor city, but you'd be nuts to say its in any sort of downward spiral relative to its past in any absolute wealth terms.

[Dulwich_ Park_ Fairy]

Where did battered sausages come from? You really are bugging me now with your absurd remarks. Stop it please.

Louisa.

Your ranting is becoming so over the top that you are forgetting previous rants. You have made a statement that East Dulwich has gone to hell in a handcart/been ruined for Real People because the Sea Cow doesn't serve battered sausages. In your book this was a very deliberate effort to exclude Real People from eating on Lordship Lane.

[Cassius]

Actually Louisa you sound a bit like my partner on a bad day who hates in no particular order; London, England, Britain, East Dulwich, other road users especially cyclists, overpriced restaurants, Gordon Brown, the price of petrol, weak lager, the lack of choice in Threshers, the rude staff in Budgens.............

[Louisa]

I would not describe 300,000 people a year small Sean, and you are right in saying IF the UK isolates itself from it's trading partners, but the simple fact we and other 'old world' nations of Europe have to rely on a super state structure to compete in a global market proves that Europe has had it and is heading up the creek. Ireland has beniffted greatly from the EU, but they started off with little to lose in the first place and yes they have been the success of Europe in recent years, but again Irish emigration still matches immigration, which further reinforces my point about how Europe really is just an old lady on her death bed.

Louisa.

[mockney piers]

Of course the largest exodus from this country is to Spain, and I know from very well how they feel about the bloody immigrants there!

Apparently they have no desire to learn the local language, they all hang around together in ghettos with their own music, their own culture and entertainment, they have no sensitivity for the culture and mores of the natives and they annoy everyone with their disgusting eating and drinking habits.

Weird.

[Asset]

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