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titch juicy Wrote:

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> > > > > get over the 'glasto' things

> folks.....it's

> > > > been

> > > > > referred to as glasto forever

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> > > > only by knobs

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> > > only by anyone that's been, for the past as

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> > > as i can remember

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> > > amazing how upset people can get by a

> > convenient

> > > abbreviation- says a lot more about the

> people

> > it

> > > upsets than the people that say/write it

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> > Who's upset? You don't have to be upset to call

> a

> > knob a knob. There are a lot of them about and

> yes

> > - they have been going for years. Still knobs.

> An

> > observation. 's all.

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> Why does it make them knobs?



Now Maxxi and TJ, this is not the GLASTONBURY way.


Maxxi, here, over to you. Draw down, nice and deep. And again. And one more. Hold it in.


Pass it across. Now come on Maxxi, there'll be no bogarting on my watch.


TJ, enjoy. Finish.


Now. Isn't that better?

'Glasto'. It just sounds naff. It always did.


It's hardly new as Titch says, but it's the universal, ubiquitous and insidious creep of the word into The Brand - along with the inevitable evolution of the festival - that irks.


It's Hunter wellies, hitting refresh on a crashing ticketing page, an insurmountable fence, home counties students instead of plumbers from Leeds - and Cath Kidston pop-up tents.



Anyway, who's playing Wimbo today anyway. "WIIIMBOOOOOOOOOOOOOO"

Just to add some personal balance I did enjoy Chic last night and was pleased most of the audience they got on stage were fat and middle aged (ie that this appealed to the righ people rather than kids raiding their parents' music collection). Funnily enough as a punk I hated that late 70s disco at the time. Ah the wisdom of age.


But then a reality check with a dreadful interview on BBC news this morning with a festival goer who did not fit any stereotypes with words being put into her mouth about the bands and how wonderful the Stones will be.

malumbu Wrote:

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> Funnily enough as a punk I hated that late 70s

> disco at the time. Ah the wisdom of age.


I 'hated' a lot of stuff in the punk era that I like now - might be age or might be the kind of puritanical zeal that was around then - you know the kind of thing, 'real punks don't wear denim... don't take drugs coz they're for hippies (yeah right)... and don't listen to that shit... or that... or that'.


Was reminded of this listening to John Lydon sitting in for Jarvis Cockers on the radio last week - a lot of the mainstream tunes he played he prefaced with a little 'forget yer prejudices, it's a good pop tuuune and thas what it's all about' intro.

How good were Chic last night. I thought I'd be channel hopping between them and the Arctics, but there was no contest.

I was a teenage Punk/New Wave, and malumbu you're right, Disco was supposed to be the enemy, so imagine my surprise when I rooted out my old C60 recordings of the Top 30, quite an eclectic bunch...Pistols, Clash, Damned, Sham 69 etc alongside Chic, Frantique, Edwin Starr. I obviously had better taste than you ;-)...fook knows how Gary Moore's Parisien Walkways got in there though...

Jah Lush Wrote:

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> > Cockney Rejects on every other page of Sounds,

> > Bushell spouting forth......what was there not

> to

> > like?

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> Garry Bushell for a start. Total tosspot.

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> Anyway, back to Glastonbury. Can't wait for Chic.



I was an NME reader from late 70's to mid/late-80's, probably stopped reading it around the time when the Smiths broke up and everyone went off their tits on E...there's only so much walking around rainy Manchester in a long overcoat a man can take.

Sounds was a big no-no with all the Oi! and Gary Bushell stuff, also very London centric. The NME tried to champion a left wing skinhead sensitivity with The RedSkins who had NME journo XMoore in their line-up. But for me the whole music/politics died once bands affiliated themselves to political mouthpieces like Red Wedge etc. It wasn't fun anymore, unlike back in the day with the ANL and RAR, propa tear ups eh Quids ;-)

red devil Wrote:

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> How good were Chic last night. I thought I'd be

> channel hopping between them and the Arctics, but

> there was no contest.

> I was a teenage Punk/New Wave, and malumbu you're

> right, Disco was supposed to be the enemy, so

> imagine my surprise when I rooted out my old C60

> recordings of the Top 30, quite an eclectic

> bunch...Pistols, Clash, Damned, Sham 69 etc

> alongside Chic, Frantique, Edwin Starr. I

> obviously had better taste than you ;-)...fook

> knows how Gary Moore's Parisien Walkways got in

> there though...



some of us saw the light back in 1979 and switched from punk to soulboy overnight.....well it took a while to grow the wedge! We also went down a bit more of a Jazz Funk route so as not to offend our sensibilities by being called 'disco boys' ..ironically it was far more working class that punks and New Romantics were, but from mod to garage there,s always been a white working class thing to get down to black music whilst the middle classes pontificate over 'rock'

Hmm... well you see back then I never aligned myself to anything. I loved all different kinds of music (and still do) and I wasn't going to be shackled to some stupid gang mentality where you can only like certain things and dress a certain way. Obviously some people never learnt about the original punk attitude of individuality. Back then I took from everything. Once everyone starts dressing the same it's over. It's another uniform. I learnt that when I was very young with hippies and skinheads.


Can't wait for the Stones tonight.

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> 1990' no head, no tent,no bogs, no security,

> ravers vs angels v hippies vs crass type

> travellers.yup. Great



I actually went in 1990 primarily to see Boo Yah Tribe. Didn't some traveller decapitate another traveller in the green field or some such? Did two smiling Buddhas, so might have errrr imagined it!

ratty Wrote:

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> > ravers vs angels v hippies vs crass type

> > travellers.yup. Great

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> I actually went in 1990 primarily to see Boo Yah

> Tribe. Didn't some traveller decapitate another

> traveller in the green field or some such? Did two

> smiling Buddhas, so might have errrr imagined it!


Common error Ratty, what happened was that a traveler lost his head and proceeded to give head to another traveler.

In the Green Field.


The Chinese whispers influenced talk of the Smiling Buddhas caused the distorted story.

Hope that's cleared it up.


As the first traveler said to the second.

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