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It's fairly straightforward, so I'm not sure why so many question marks.


I'm wondering, Sue, how many people on this thread complaining about raw milk potentially killing us all routinely take unnecessary antibiotics, thereby hastening mankind's ultimate demise.

I don't think I've EVER been prescribed antibiotics for a cold, so I don't really get your point Rosie. In fact I don't think the doctor would even see you for something so trivial.


I've also no idea how drinking raw milk impacts the health of others, despite UncleBen's insightful (as always) explanation.


I'm not in the slightest bit interested in raw milk though. But then, as someone who only buys one pint of milk a week to pour onto the cereal on Sunday morning (and thinks organic veg boxes are a completely daft idea), I'm hardly the target market.

*Bob* Wrote:

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> We all take precautions, DC - but if the glass

> coffee table should accidentally break if the

> wrong moment then there is a health risk.


That's why I take the extra precaution & wear a Pyrex dish *Bob*

What Jeremy said


I have no interest in raw milk (and was given the damn stuff enough as a child to know) but I can see why some people are interested


I have no idea why anyone else wants to stick their nose in. It's not as if the mainstream dairy industry is going to grind to a halt, causing the kind of problems woody talks about (food commodity markets)


Sourcing good quality fish and chips isn't helping with that either, but no-one barged into your F&C thread to talk about food commodity markets


sheesh

I've often heard doctors complain that it's easier just to give them the damn pills than persuade them of the pointlessness (and wider tragedy of the commons dangers) of the treatment.

Some people in not take no for an answer shock, or as sturgeon's law states "90% of everything is crap" or as piers' law states (who he?) "people are cunts".

El Pibe Wrote:

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> I've often heard doctors complain that it's easier

> just to give them the damn pills than persuade

> them of the pointlessness (and wider tragedy of

> the commons dangers) of the treatment.


Sounds like that's the doctor's fault then...

In this country, probably, though some people really are hard to say no to, so it's a fault of education and it really is the fault of selfish arseholes who refuse to listen to reason.


In the wider world there is a huge culture of buying antibiotics in small quantities for every other sniffle.


I work with an Iranian lad who doesn't complete courses but takes them until he feels better and keeps them for later.

I gave him a very stern and snotty lecture sounding like someone's dad, but it's absolutely the norm in vast swathes of the planet and that's where all the multi-drug-resistant strains are originating and then going global.


So really rosie and I are pissing in the wind with this one.

I've had warm milk, straight from the udder, squirted all over me by the person milking the cow. Put me off milk for life it has.


Thought woody's tirade was more about the evils of capitalism than any concerns of a public health nature. However, who knows how much milk-gate affected brain development so my thinking here could be totally skewed.

StraferJack Wrote:

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> I have no idea why anyone else wants to stick

> their nose in.


Let me enlighten you.


This is the Lounge. It is the light-entertainment department of the forum, and it's the ideal place for silly games, pointless whinges and the sort of cries for help that brighten everyone else's misery.


It is not the Advertising Department. A post in this section is an invitation for discussion, and vituperative discussion is at least as good as any. If unhelpfully swarm-snaffling beekeepers, poet-exposing chancers from Peckham (or possibly Leeds or Suffolk or Cambridge - I've not tracked them down yet, mainly because they're more tedious than annoying), or even the proprietor of Woodrot's Special Clinic have to suffer as short a shrift as it amuses anyone to bother with, I see no good reason to make an exception for second-hand dairists from over the border.


I am only surprised that, so far, nobody's pointed out the rancid fatuity of advertising milk to people forty minutes off by bus in the height of summer. Especially if they can only be bothered to sell it once a week. But then, tastes differ, and it's not as if the self-selecting subset of the population who might be tempted to fall for the wheeze are in any sense undeserving, or will suffer much hardship by maxing out their Oyster cards on what, to normal people, would be part of a routine grocery trip. They might count as vulnerable, but the ethics of saving people from themselves has always been a little contentious, and such matters are best reserved for the philosophical sump of the forum, and that is not the Lounge.

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