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Apologies, I should have been clearer. Yes, some messages have been removed e.g. "Cllr xyz is a d**k" so my message would have looked out of place. I don't have time to read and clarify all messages and their content, but when it continually strays off into political fires sparked by how "the council are corrupt" and "the council are not corrupt" then it gets boring.


Thank you for self-policing, it really does help.

Instead of LTNs which divide communities and benefit some at the expense of others... this, partly funded by the Council, could have brought communities together and would have been an alternative mode of local travel rather than private cars.

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Community bonds to support low emission bus services deserves a thread of its own. There are many on this thread that seem to have a lot of free time to post on why the LTNs are bad. Their time could be better spent on initiating a community bond scheme in this area. Not a dig but a challenge 😊

What a very patronising post.


Waseley Wrote:

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> Community bonds to support low emission bus

> services deserves a thread of its own. There are

> many on this thread that seem to have a lot of

> free time to post on why the LTNs are bad. Their

> time could be better spent on initiating a

> community bond scheme in this area. Not a dig but

> a challenge 😊

Rather than LTNs maybe one-way roads and the local green bus..with seed funding from the 6 million. Townley to Village via Calton could be one way with a local green bus, bypassing other routes. Making journeys shorter by public transport seems a good way to encourage use.
Stay on thread Heart block or the thought police will get you.... But some interesting views. When new Labour got in they introduced the term stakeholder ie looking for buy in. Wouldn't it be good to have those with all interests sitting around the table, at a national level, to agree how we tackle road emissions, both pollution and CO2

To add to the Townley Road suggestion of making it one way, Court Lane could also be made one way from the Village to LL with two way access for emergency services vehicles.


That way the traffic is circulating using those two LTN roads which would take some pressure off Lordship Lane, East Dulwich Grove and Dulwich Common/College Road.


The other issue is The Grove junction, which is managed by TfL rather than Southwark Council which desperately needs remodelling and was planned to be done before Covid. With TfL still being drip fed funding by the government, they can't plan for the work to commence which would help to relieve residents with live between LL and Dulwich Common such as those on the Lordship Lane Estate and Dukes Court from being pinched by excess traffic caused by the current LTN.

This would be so much better than LTNs for these estates. One way systems are just as likely to discourage car use ?if? you believe the ?inconvenience will make traffic evaporate? argument. One way will then allow local bus routes and a ?hard? cycle lanes. Court is a perfect LL Village route and Calton a great route for a bus that can then stop at Village Schools, Alleyn?s, Charter and then go down Elsie dropping school kids off before entering Grove Vale...then up to the station around Sainsbury?s and back around again.
Was on court Lane the other evening on the way to/from Dulwich Park, there were literally no moving cars on the road at all which for such a massive road is just sick, when other roads are struggling with the overload (and others that were previously quieter are now suffering increased and speeding traffic).

alice Wrote:

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> One day we will look back incredulous that traffic

> was moved from the richest, greenest part of town

> to create arid dead villages in the centre of a

> major city.


Yet this is what Councillor Leeming wants.

A Village, dead from the neck up.

The fire engine is at the DV end of Court Lane facing onto Calton Ave. There is no built out pavement there.

Court Lane has double yellows on both sides at that end so looks more like it's illegally parked cars that have caused the problem.


Unless there is something very odd about the perspective in the photo; as there is unrestricted parking a bit further back allowing for parking on both sides. But that predates the LTN, so not sure how that warrants the headline/angle of the story.


The article states: The fire crew were hurtling towards an incident in Eynella Road on 11 April,


That appliance is facing the opposite direction from Eynella. It's possible the driver overshot and was looking for a way back, but there are a further three or four right turns they would have gone past to rectify by this point.

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