63 and P13 drivers to strike

[Bic Basher]

Next Tuesday will see Abellio London bus drivers strike over a pay dispute.

In SE22, Routes 63 and P13 won't be operating, along with Route 3 in West Dulwich on November 22nd, 25th and 26th.

The strikes will continue throughout December on 1, 2, 3, 9, 10, 16 and 17 December.

Route 363 which is operated by another bus company will continue to operate along Forest Hill Road and Peckham Rye while residents especially on Underhill Road will have no bus service on those days.

[jazzer]

Also see;

https://tfl.gov.uk/campaign/strikes

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Bus strikes

There are strikes planned on Abellio bus services. Routes affected are mostly in west and south London.

If the strikes go ahead, they will take place on these dates:

Tuesday 22 November

Friday 25 & Saturday 26 November

Thursday 1, Friday 2 and Saturday 3 December

Friday 9 and Saturday10 December

Friday 16 and Saturday 17 December

On the days after strikes, a good service will be running by approximately 06:00.

We will aim to run as many services as possible.

Plan ahead and check your travel.

These routes will be affected:

Day routes

3, 27, 45, 63, 68, 109, 130, 156, 195, 196, 201, 207, 267, 270, 278, 315, 322, 350, 367, 381, 407, 415, 427, 433, 464, 482, 490, 969, C10, E5, E7, E10, E11, H20, H25, H28, H26, P5, P13, R68, R70, S4, U5, U7, U9

Route 481 will operate but with fewer services on weekdays from 07:30-08:00, and from 15:00-16:00. Remaining services will be busier than normal.

24-hour routes

24, 111, 159, 285, 344, 345

Night routes

N3, N27, N63, N68, N109, N207, N381

School routes

671

[Tipsyleprachauns]

It’ll be nice to have a few days relief from the aggressive and dangerous driving of the P13 staff causing absolute carnage on the back roads of E.Dulwich.

[jazzer]

I find it convenient for getting to East Dulwich and Peckham for shopping.

[Dogkennelhillbilly]

What kind of "absolute carnage", specifically?

There are a lot of strikes on at the moment...

[Sue]

It’ll be nice to have a few days relief from the aggressive and dangerous driving of the P13 staff causing absolute carnage on the back roads of E.Dulwich.

 

I've also experienced quite hair raising journeys on the P13 travelling between the stop before the lights near Cox's Walk and the stop at Crystal Palace Road.

Particularly at night, some of the drivers go at dangerously high speeds, in my opinion.

[Bic Basher]

Half the problem is the P13 (and P4) lose a lot of time being stuck in the traffic going at a crawl up to The Grove, so some drivers try to make up the time belting it along Underhill Road, especially when the road is quiet.

[sally buying]

Has the bus strike gone head re P13 from Peckham to Sainsburys DKH. Unable to find news.

News would be appreciated

[ctovey]

P13 is not running today

[jazzer]

More disruption planned

"Strike action is planned by Abellio and Metroline drivers in December.

This disruption will occur on the following dates:

Thursday 1 to Saturday 3 December

Thursday 8 to Saturday 10 December

Thursday 15 to Saturday 17 December

Routes affected by the Abellio strike action are mostly in west and south London, while routes affected by the Metroline strike action are mostly in west, northwest and north London.

Both Abellio and Metroline routes will be affected by strike action from Thursday 1 to Saturday 3, Friday 9 and Friday 16 December.

On Thursday 8 and Thursday 15 December, only Abellio routes will be affected by strike action. On Saturday 10 and Saturday 17 December, only Metroline routes will be affected by strike action.

During this time, please plan ahead, check before you travel and leave more time for your journey.

To see a full list of the affected routes and for the latest information, please visit our strikes webpage.

We encourage customers to take appropriate action to keep themselves safe, including wearing face coverings, if it helps you travel with confidence.

Yours sincerely,

Customer Information Team

Transport for London"

[jazzer]

P13 and 363 on diversion due to Thames water works at junction of Underhill rd and Melford rd from 12/12 - 16/12.

I got caught out on the P13 return trip from DKH Sainsbury's at lunch time today, further inconvenience to those that rely on these services, although earlier had got the P13 towards DKH Sainsburys from Langton Rise/Underhill Road stop.

Taken from TfL website;

"UNDERHILL ROAD, SE22: Route P13 is on diversion from 08:00 on Tuesday 13 December until 20:00 on Friday 16 December due to Thames Water works. Buses are diverted via Lordship Lane and Barry Road, missing the stops Whateley Road and Crystal Palace Road in both directions.

MELFORD ROAD, DULWICH: Route P13 is on diversion between Dulwich Common/Lordship Lane Estate and North Cross Road via Lordship Lane due to a burst water main. Buses are not serving the stops Underhill Road/Melford Road, Belvoir Road, Langton Rise, Dunstans Road, Friern Road, Crystal Palace Road and Whateley Road.

MELFORD ROAD, DULWICH: Routes 363 and N63 are on diversion between Peckham Rye/The Gardens and Lordship Lane/Wood Vale via Barry Road and Lordship Lane due to a burst water main. Buses are not serving the stops Friern Road, Dunstans Road, Therapia Road, Wood Vale/Forest Hill Road, Langton Rise, Melford Road, Underhill Road/Melford Road and Underhill Road."

[Dogkennelhillbilly]

Where is the burst water main (this time)?

[jazzer]

junction of Melford and Underhill, where the mini roundabout is.

[Bic Basher]

I've lost count how many times this year the P13 hasn't served Underhill Road this year.

[Moovart]

Where is the burst water main (this time)?

 

Same place as it's burst and been repaired at least twice before.

I would really appreciate someone from Thames water explaining why repairs only seem to last a few months before they go again. There are several leaks in this area that have been repaired at least three times.

[Penguin68]

...AND this is a stretch where entirely new mains were installed (over a number of weeks of disruption) - down Woodvale, across Melford into the lower (southern) portion of Underhill. This isn't about breaches in an old main, but in a new installation. When they first installed it they also breached the adjacent gas main (well done that man!) which took a couple of weeks to fix.

Thames Water should be being regularly fined for avoidable road chaos - jobs such as this should only need to be done once unless disrupted by 3rd parties - i.e. other utilities - as they did to the gas distribution network. TW is a disgrace!

[Dogkennelhillbilly]

Crikey

[malumbu]

Off topic but I will support any government that will nationalise water supply. It's probably worse than any other of the privitised sectors.

[jazzer]

"Abellio London strikes:

A strike is taking place on Friday 16 and Saturday 17 December. On the days after strikes, a good service will be running by approximately 06:00.

Future strikes are expected to take place on;

Saturday 24 December,

Tuesday 27 December,

Saturday 31 December,

Wednesday 4 and Thursday 5 January,

Tuesday 10 January,

Thursday 12 January,

Monday 16 January,

Thursday 19 January,

Wednesday 25 and Thursday 26 January.

These routes will be affected: Day routes 3, 27, 45, 63, 68, 109, 130, 156, 195, 196, 201, 207, 267, 270, 278, 315, 322, 350, 367, 381, 407, 415, 427, 433, 464, 482, 490, 969, C10, E5, E7, E10, E11, H20, H25, H28, H26, P5, P13, R68, R70, S4, U5, U7, U9.

Route 481 will operate as normal except for the special schoolday only journeys to/from Turing House School.

24-hour routes: 24, 111, 159, 285, 344, 345.

Night routes: N3, N27, N63, N68, N109, N207, N381. School route 671"

[jazzer]

Further strike dates reported by TfL

"Strike action is planned by Abellio drivers from Wednesday 1 until Friday 3 February, which is expected to affect 60 bus routes, mostly in west and south London.

This is in addition to the strikes already announced for tomorrow (Wednesday 25th) and Thursday 26 January."

[sally buying]

There were a few buses running but how many who knows. Why can local cllrs not put up correct information on the forum. The whole thing is a joke. Perhaps Khan the magnificent could offer his Range Rover to help people who need to shop?

If you are elderly you have no chance.

[Dogkennelhillbilly]

Why can local cllrs not put up correct information on the forum. The whole thing is a joke. Perhaps Khan the magnificent could offer his Range Rover to help people who need to shop?

 

Councillors don't run the buses and don't oversee TfL. The most accurate information will be on the TfL website or via the 24 hour helpline: 0343 222 1234.

Maybe the millionaire owners of Abellio could offer their cars to passengers stranded by their refusal to pay bus drivers a decent wage?

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2022/aug/24/dutch-state-railway-to-sell-abellio-in-uk-management-buyout

[jazzer]

There was a service on both the 63 and P13 earlier today, so not clear about why they say they are on "strike" but buses are running. Not a moan, was very happy to see these today.

[Nigello]

Reduced services, I expect. Some staff won’t have taken part.

[Bic Basher]

The P13 had four out of eight buses out during the day which meant half of the drivers allocated to the route were out for part of the day. The 63 had 8 buses out.

Incidentally, Abellio will replace Go-Ahead London on the 363 from November 30th, so if this strike action continues for that long, Forest Hill Road will either have a very reduced service or nothing at all with the 63 already being run by them.