Foxtons on Lordship Lane soon to become a Poundland Local

[Dogkennelhillbilly]

if wishes were horses, beggars would ride

Wish-powered equine transport sounds very sustainable.

[Penguin68]

https://www.historic-uk.com/HistoryUK/HistoryofBritain/Great-Horse-Manure-Crisis-of-1894/

[Spartacus]

Would the Mayor then impose an ULHSZ *(Ultra Low Horse Shite Zone) and councils install LHCN (Low Hackney Cab Neighbourhoods) on posh streets ?

* although one feels that it would cause problems at the Mayor's Office as everything he says is Horse Shite 😉

[Earl Aelfheah]

RE. Lordship Lane, I just wish the council would remove a lot more of the parking, widen the pavements, put in a bit more seating, planting and bike parking -

 

Not sure that would work in practice as widening the pavements would remove the bus lanes leaving a single lane each way. Every time a bus stopped all the traffic in that direction would come to a standstill and the idling would result in increased pollution - not exactly the ideal environment to sit in.

 

It just needs some of the parking to be removed. People will not slow down buses any more than parked cars.

They did widen the pavements during COVID opposite the cinema. They are much wider outside the eco shop / Spinach. More widening could be accommodated elsewhere.

North Cross road is ripe for pedestrianisation, which would enable planting, seating etc. Our own 'Dulwich square' in ED.

The more space we make for people, the better the shops will do.

[Spartacus]

Oh Rahx3 you do live in a fantasy land

Narrow the road on Lordship Lane snd restrict the width for buses to safely pass cyclists whilst also removing valuable parking for out of area visitors and restricting where business can take deliveries won't improve the area.

The shops rely on temporary parking outside for deliveries as most don't have rear access

Pedestrianisation of North Cross Road will apply to cyclists too and we know from Dulwich Junction that cyclists can't get off and walk due to cycling shoes, however we already have an ED square down at Melbourne Grove and we have all seen how that's worked so well for businesses and shoppers 🫣

Besides NCR is closed to traffic one day a week when the markets on are you proposing a seven day a week market?

[first mate]

Rah, and once the area is fully pedestrianised those who really do need to use cars should sell up and move out...yes?

In our topsy turvy Southwark world, we push for greening up the streets with planters and 'parklets' and advocate for children gambolling in the streets, while we rent out the real parks for private child-free use, chock full of generators, ugly giant fencing and various forms of pollution. Go figure.

[teddyboy23]

Get back on track lads

[Spartacus]

Get back on track lads

 

RAHx3 started it on the 30th Sir, don't mean to dob anyone in but ...

However fair and valid point you raise TB23

Poundland is no longer the 1970s "Tescos of the supermarket world" and is now seen as a corner store on many a high street

Although they also no longer sell everything for a pound which ruins the game of asking (over and over) to an assistant "How much is this then?"

Life progresses and with inflation will they have to rename to "TwoQuidLand" ?

[Earl Aelfheah]

@sparticus - no need to narrow the carriage way. Just remove parked cars and reallocate the space to pedestrians. Buses cannot drive through parked cars. This is physics.

[Earl Aelfheah]

I would rather a Poundland than a Foxtons, but if we're going to have another chain store, I'd rather a basics clothes shop like H&M, or Uniqlo, than another supermarket. Especially when there are already Poundland stores in Camberwell and Peckham, both a short distance away.

[Bic Basher]

I would rather a Poundland than a Foxtons, but if we're going to have another chain store, I'd rather a basics clothes shop like H&M, or Uniqlo, than another supermarket. Especially when there are already Poundland stores in Camberwell and Peckham, both a short distance away.

 

Welcome to capitalism.

[AcedOut]

Shame we couldn't have a bank. That would be really useful!

 

Sadly they are only going to continue to diminish. Be thankful that cash is still around at the moment. If CBDC ever becomes a thing in the UK (and it likely will, unless people push back enough), then say goodbye to any form of cash and high-street banking. Programmable money is what they want, and that is not a good thing.

[kbabes]

Surely their prices will have to go up.. ! ?

I heard they were rebranding to ‘30 Bob Land’

[tasha1]

I would rather a Poundland than a Foxtons, but if we're going to have another chain store, I'd rather a basics clothes shop like H&M, or Uniqlo, than another supermarket. Especially when there are already Poundland stores in Camberwell and Peckham, both a short distance away.

 

Is this not slightly hypocritical? You want less cars to help the environment (which I agree but not the measures you're suggesting) however, you'd like a fast fashion shop on the Lane?

[ED Light]

I’m going to open a 99p shop next to Poundland and take all their business

[Mystic Mog]

I’m going to open a 99p shop next to Poundland and take all their business

 

😀

[sweetgirl]

I have a feeling the poundland local will be a huge disappointment & nothing like their other stores!

Seeing as it’s in dulwich I think it should really be called “£5land”!

Let’s see……. 😅

[first mate]

I would rather a Poundland than a Foxtons, but if we're going to have another chain store, I'd rather a basics clothes shop like H&M, or Uniqlo, than another supermarket. Especially when there are already Poundland stores in Camberwell and Peckham, both a short distance away.

 

Is this not slightly hypocritical? You want less cars to help the environment (which I agree but not the measures you're suggesting) however, you'd like a fast fashion shop on the Lane?

 

It is hypocritical https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2020/01/fashion-industry-carbon-unsustainable-environment-pollution/

Plus, I am a cyclist and have never owned an SUV.

Have you sold your car yet, Rahx3?

[Penguin68]

Plus, I am a cyclist and have never owned an SUV

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Probably most people locally actually haven't

Once again the SUV Chimaera raises its (ugly) head.

For clarification, there is much confusion over what an SUV actually is, (and whether it’s the same as a 4x4 or a 4WD). The original SUVs (American) were car bodies (effectively) on a truck chassis – that is to say that the ‘utility vehicle’ was a truck, with large wheels, a robust engine and some, or indeed in some cases a lot, of off-road capability – these were based on e.g. vehicles used on construction sites.

The car bodies chosen were analogous to Jeep or Land Rover styles (both former all-terrain military vehicles) and the ‘sports’ element referred to their leisure rather than work use. Inevitably they were both relatively big and relatively over-powered for the ‘work’ they now had to do. A body-type design language was built up for them.

Later what are often referred to as ‘cross-over’ vehicles were designed, using a car, not a truck chassis, but with robust looks and some similar capabilities, particularly four wheel drive with some off-road capability. SUV’s and Jeep/ Land Rover styling coalesced, with e.g. the Range Rover an early example of moving to ‘luxury’ in the type, although again not built on a traditional truck chassis.

Formerly always large vehicles there are now medium and small cars (not trucks) with SUV-type body styling. Whilst ‘green’ attacks on original-type SUVs – trucks (often diesel powered) styled for domestic use – may be justified; modern cars with SUV styling – often petrol driven, if not hybrid or even Plug In or full electric – are nothing like these as regards climate impact.

And having four wheel drive is a perfectly reasonable safety option where there are issues of either ice/ snow or need to go off-road. Without it I would have been in real trouble in East Sussex during the cold snap before Christmas 2022 when other vehicles were unable to proceed home one evening and were stranded.

Another benefit of the SUV style is a higher body and seat position, which gives a greater field of vision to the driver – as well as being far easier to get in and out of than a low slung car for the less flexible.

They are, the bigger ones anyway, frequently, heavier (as are all-electric cars with heavy batteries) which does mean that, if speeding, they may cause more impact damage, but they are also, because of their generally staid style, not that appealing to boy-racers. As they tend to be more modern in design they tend also to have more safety features to avoid accidents built-in. About 50% of new sales are now of SUV body-type cars – which is why the type, when you see it, tends to offer the most modern features.

The medium and small cross-over 'SUVs' are no more climate-impactful than estate cars or people carriers, indeed, as most (see above) are pretty modern in construction (the style has only recently evolved), they are probably far less adversely impactful on the environment than older estates and people carriers. Even my 2004 cross-over ‘SUV’ (coming up to 19 years old) is ULEZ compliant for instance. Probably, locally, only 10% of SUV ‘style’ cars you see are actually built on truck chassis and are thus not ‘cross-over’ cars but ‘true’ SUVs. For obvious reasons most, if not all, will be ULEZ compliant. And a significant minority will have 'foot-print' and weight the equivalent of any modern saloon on the road.

[LurkyMcLurker]

Please keep the conversation focused on the topic.

There's plenty of other threads about car usage and cyclists and all of that.

This thread isn't one of them and doesn't need to be one of them, regardless of who said what first.

[teddyboy23]

People are getting over excited ,and are just rambling about other stuff.deep down their loving this new adition.poundland local the harrods of lordship lane.😊

[Loutwo]

Poundland local seems to have a good supply of biscuits, crisps, fizzy drinks and cakes. It’s so nice to have somewhere to go to get the basics without worrying about taking out a second mortgage.

Bring it on.

Louisa.

[jazzer]

Seconded

We've got enough poncey over priced shops already, so thumbs up for Poundland, "getting back to Basics".

[Penguin68]

There is absolutely no point in second guessing the market. If Poundland is right, there will be enough people within the site's cachement for the enterprise to succeed, at least for a time until and if demographics change. If they are wrong, it will fail. Whether you, as a sample of one, to choose to shop there or not, and share that view here, or if I do, is frankly irrelevant. It's one of the relatively few large sites in LL, its success or failure will have no impact on the desires, or not, of other chains to come here.

[Pugwash]

I will continue to use Farmers as the prices are reasonable, but will amble in to Poundland when it opens to see what it can offer.

Generally speaking Poundland and its ilk,do not sell everything for £1 but you still get bargains there- children's party bags, toothpaste, party hats and serviettes. Sachets of cat/dog food. etc

East Dulwich had pockets of poor housing/poverty/ malnutrition etc long before the current cost of living crisis. I grew up in ED and in the 60s and 70s lived in Spurling Road, with no bathroom and an outside loo which was shared with another family. Privately rented accommodation which was twice designated for slum clearance along with other houses in the street (due to dampness /mould/ poor sanitation). Yet the same houses are still standing - obviously refurbished and updated.

Back to the subject - if a Poundland does well in terms of revenue- great. It will also offer employment to local people.