Earl Aelfheah Posted September 6, 2022 Share Posted September 6, 2022 Create on street parking bays (don't put them on the pavement) . Have a couple on every street to start with. Then work with the companies to fine those who don't park them in a marked bay. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/311978-lime-bikes-and-other-hire-companies-left-in-middle-of-pavement/page/3/#findComment-1592915 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earl Aelfheah Posted September 6, 2022 Share Posted September 6, 2022 If every street had a couple of spaces with electric bikes available, perhaps we could lose some of the many cars littering the place. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/311978-lime-bikes-and-other-hire-companies-left-in-middle-of-pavement/page/3/#findComment-1592916 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bic Basher Posted September 6, 2022 Share Posted September 6, 2022 If you think ED is bad for Lime Bikes, there were FOUR dumped outside Sainsbury's outside Forest Hill this afternoon and another couple by Pizza Hut.A couple of weeks ago, another half dozen were left outside the Job Centre on Dartmouth Road. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/311978-lime-bikes-and-other-hire-companies-left-in-middle-of-pavement/page/3/#findComment-1592951 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ab29 Posted September 6, 2022 Share Posted September 6, 2022 Saw it on my way from Forest Hill station. And this crap has now entered Dulwich Park as well. It must be banned, its nothing else but producing and scattering even more rubbish around, as if there was not enough already! Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/311978-lime-bikes-and-other-hire-companies-left-in-middle-of-pavement/page/3/#findComment-1592959 Share on other sites More sharing options...
malumbu Posted September 6, 2022 Share Posted September 6, 2022 Anyone used one? I am sure that there are many responsible users and it would be good to hear from one of them.Personally I have bigger things to rant about such as climate change. If e bikes are one of the solutions I'm happy to put up with some teething problems. E scooters also have a role to play but difficult to integrate on our current road network. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/311978-lime-bikes-and-other-hire-companies-left-in-middle-of-pavement/page/3/#findComment-1592967 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogkennelhillbilly Posted September 6, 2022 Share Posted September 6, 2022 The bikes are very good. They're also not going away.The fix is actually easy: require them to chained to railings, lampposts, bike stands etc. The problem is they're just left in the middle of pavements etc. Many of the existing models have integrated locks but users don't need to use them. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/311978-lime-bikes-and-other-hire-companies-left-in-middle-of-pavement/page/3/#findComment-1592970 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ab29 Posted September 6, 2022 Share Posted September 6, 2022 Get rid of bike & scooter companies who only care about profit = less rubbish, more safe space for pedestrians and better for enviroment Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/311978-lime-bikes-and-other-hire-companies-left-in-middle-of-pavement/page/3/#findComment-1592973 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spartacus Posted September 6, 2022 Share Posted September 6, 2022 Personally I have bigger things to rant about such as climate change. If e bikes are one of the solutions I'm happy to put up with some teething problems. Making it dangerous for the blind, elderly or disabled is not exactly "teething problems" 🤔 Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/311978-lime-bikes-and-other-hire-companies-left-in-middle-of-pavement/page/3/#findComment-1592976 Share on other sites More sharing options...
malumbu Posted September 6, 2022 Share Posted September 6, 2022 And a third of the Pakistani population being subject to biblical flooding us not a bigger issue? If you are truly worried about the blind, disabled and elderly's welfare then surely ban everything that moves. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/311978-lime-bikes-and-other-hire-companies-left-in-middle-of-pavement/page/3/#findComment-1592982 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forevergreen Posted September 6, 2022 Share Posted September 6, 2022 Okay I understand you are annoyed about bikes on the pavement. What about bins ? It is just so selfish and disgusting. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/311978-lime-bikes-and-other-hire-companies-left-in-middle-of-pavement/page/3/#findComment-1592988 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockets Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 The problem with the bikes is that the business model is built around the ability to pick one up and then drop it wherever you want - the same issue of littering is being experienced in every city that has deployed them globally. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/311978-lime-bikes-and-other-hire-companies-left-in-middle-of-pavement/page/3/#findComment-1593015 Share on other sites More sharing options...
beigemartin Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 In some places it's not an issue though. I was in another, more modern, city with them for a while and there were wide pavements and grass verges and they didn't seem to impact pedestrians. We don't have those luxuries in our old city. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/311978-lime-bikes-and-other-hire-companies-left-in-middle-of-pavement/page/3/#findComment-1593017 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earl Aelfheah Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 In some places it's not an issue though. I was in another, more modern, city with them for a while and there were wide pavements and grass verges and they didn't seem to impact pedestrians. We don't have those luxuries in our old city. It's not an issue in some parts of London (City and Camden for example), where they've marked out on street parking bays and worked with the companies to ensure that there are fines / bans for those who don't use them. The problem here is that as much as people don't like them on the pavement, many would not like them on the road either (loss of parking). Personally, I would make sure that every street had at least one space for a car club car, and one or two for hire bikes - on the road (not the pavement). Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/311978-lime-bikes-and-other-hire-companies-left-in-middle-of-pavement/page/3/#findComment-1593294 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wreath-theif Posted September 10, 2022 Share Posted September 10, 2022 Middle of the pavement?I’ve just found one in Dulwich woods! Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/311978-lime-bikes-and-other-hire-companies-left-in-middle-of-pavement/page/3/#findComment-1593418 Share on other sites More sharing options...
first mate Posted September 11, 2022 Author Share Posted September 11, 2022 RX3, Am I right in thinking that Lime has hooked up with LCC? It is a California based tech company, I believe? Can you say how many fines have been issued against Lime bike users in Camden to date? How does the fining system work? In some places it's not an issue though. I was in another, more modern, city with them for a while and there were wide pavements and grass verges and they didn't seem to impact pedestrians. We don't have those luxuries in our old city. It's not an issue in some parts of London (City and Camden for example), where they've marked out on street parking bays and worked with the companies to ensure that there are fines / bans for those who don't use them. The problem here is that as much as people don't like them on the pavement, many would not like them on the road either (loss of parking). Personally, I would make sure that every street had at least one space for a car club car, and one or two for hire bikes - on the road (not the pavement). Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/311978-lime-bikes-and-other-hire-companies-left-in-middle-of-pavement/page/3/#findComment-1593493 Share on other sites More sharing options...
first mate Posted October 12, 2022 Author Share Posted October 12, 2022 I forgot my phone or would have posted a picture. Junction of Barry Rd next to pedestrian crossing and entrance to Peckham Rye Park.A jumble/ heap of around 20 Urban Forest hire bikes strewn around the pavement. Unsightly, a hazard and just plain wrong. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/311978-lime-bikes-and-other-hire-companies-left-in-middle-of-pavement/page/3/#findComment-1597455 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigello Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 Take a picture and @ the firms involved. Get as many people as you can to RT or like it. Also @ ROSPA/disability organisations/MP etc. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/311978-lime-bikes-and-other-hire-companies-left-in-middle-of-pavement/page/3/#findComment-1597597 Share on other sites More sharing options...
first mate Posted October 13, 2022 Author Share Posted October 13, 2022 Rah,There are already cycle stands there. How, precisely does marked bays or more room stop people leaving the bikes laying around on the ground? I think you know that it won't. It certainly does not make a difference to how Lime bikes are left on Lordship Lane. Even in the area described, across from Peckham Rye, there is plenty of room to place the bikes, one just gets the impression it is too much trouble for the user. Easier to leave it lying on the pavement, wherever they choose to dismount.I understand that your argument for marked bays is simply another way to achieve your agenda of forcing car users out, but I really do not think it addresses the issue here. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/311978-lime-bikes-and-other-hire-companies-left-in-middle-of-pavement/page/3/#findComment-1597605 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Administrator Posted October 13, 2022 Administrator Share Posted October 13, 2022 FYI - moved a few posts here from the LTN thread to avoid it veering off-topic. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/311978-lime-bikes-and-other-hire-companies-left-in-middle-of-pavement/page/3/#findComment-1597607 Share on other sites More sharing options...
first mate Posted October 13, 2022 Author Share Posted October 13, 2022 Thanks Admin, good call and my bad for posting in LTNs. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/311978-lime-bikes-and-other-hire-companies-left-in-middle-of-pavement/page/3/#findComment-1597626 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earl Aelfheah Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 Every street should have one or two parking spaces on the street marked out for hire bikes.Or the bikes could just be parked on the street like motorbikes. Yep, or that. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/311978-lime-bikes-and-other-hire-companies-left-in-middle-of-pavement/page/3/#findComment-1597632 Share on other sites More sharing options...
first mate Posted October 13, 2022 Author Share Posted October 13, 2022 But on current evidence the wouldn't be parked like motorbikes, they'd just be left lying in the street. You see the difference is people with motorbikes mostly care about the equipment. It seems many using hire bikes do not give a fig. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/311978-lime-bikes-and-other-hire-companies-left-in-middle-of-pavement/page/3/#findComment-1597638 Share on other sites More sharing options...
malumbu Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 There are 72 posts on this, maybe two thirds complaining. Have any of you done anything to address this perceived problem? My starting point would be to write to my MP. At least you would get the government's position, and it would make a nice change for them to think about something apart from wrecking the economy. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/311978-lime-bikes-and-other-hire-companies-left-in-middle-of-pavement/page/3/#findComment-1597656 Share on other sites More sharing options...
first mate Posted October 13, 2022 Author Share Posted October 13, 2022 Is that another attempt to shut down an angle that doesn't suit Mal? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/311978-lime-bikes-and-other-hire-companies-left-in-middle-of-pavement/page/3/#findComment-1597662 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogkennelhillbilly Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 Even in the area described, across from Peckham Rye, there is plenty of room to place the bikes, one just gets the impression it is too much trouble for the user. If there are multiple bikes, let alone 20, they haven't been left there by a USER. They've been left there by the company itself, which periodically drops off bikes so they're spread around town. Unfortunately these guys can't be bothered to spend more than 3 seconds throwing them out the back of a transit van. Urban Forest are particularly bad - worse than Lime now. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/311978-lime-bikes-and-other-hire-companies-left-in-middle-of-pavement/page/3/#findComment-1597684 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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