Thatcher Is Dead

[DulwichFox]

Margaret Thatcher The Popular Ex PM has died.

Foxy

[Santerme]

Yep, cue the hate fest!

I quite liked her

[maxxi]

DulwichFox Wrote:

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> Margaret Thatcher The Popular Ex PM has died.

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> Foxy

now you've done it...

[KidKruger]

More balls than the entire current cabinet.

[DulwichFox]

We have looked upon the high Kings,

Found them less than mortals;

Their names are Dust before the Just

March of our young, new law..

Peter Hammill

It's Ok kids. The Nasty Lady is not going to steal your Milk.

Foxy

[Salsaboy]

Just leave her be.

[woodrot]

now the day has come, i am finding it hard to give a shit. no hate left anymore. there are better targets to direct my venom at nowadays. ATOS assesment comes in today , thatcher goes out. I know what is more relevant. I am not going to shed a tear but not going to dance on her grave either. fuck her, she effectively died in 1992.

[Parkdrive]

KidKruger Wrote:

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> More balls than the entire current cabinet.

That's a bit worrying in more ways than one

[lameduck]

A GREAT LADY BETTER THAN WE HAVE NOW

SHAME !

[woodrot]

who?

http://whoismargaretthatcher.tumblr.com/

[El Pibe]

"RIP And all that"

priceless :-D

[Jimmyv]

Shame

[Jeremy]

To be honest it's been on the cards for years, and there's nothing you can say about her which hasn't been said a million times before.

I'm much more interested about my sighting of Stephen Fry this morning, on London Bridge, walking a sheep on a lead.

[El Pibe]

Exactly.

In fact there is a sort of poignancy in woodrot's linky.

One thing you have to say about her time, even we young folk were politically engaged, we cared even if in reality she offended our parents' liberal sensibilities* whilst they did quite well out of it all thank you very much.

The current lot are savaging the post war legacy and raise barely a murmer.

Plus I bet all those tweeters can name every xfactor conterstant for the past five years running...or somesuch.

*I can but speak for myself and my peers in 80s suburban east anglia.

[ianr]

> I'm much more interested about my sighting of Stephen Fry this morning, on London Bridge, walking a sheep on a lead.

Her name is Grace. I hope they'll be very happy together.

[MrBen]

I was listening to some of Churchill's spine tingling speeches for the first time over the weekend. And then thinking about what we have now.....not a fair comparison perhaps and flawed. But if you want bollocks.....

[StraferJack]

What that really tells is mr Ben, is not the difference in politicians today.

It tells of the process of politicians, how they are selected, how they are reported and how the public judges them

In short he wouldn't stand a chance today. People SAY they want vision and boldness...I'm not so sure

[Huguenot]

Totally agree SJ.

Winston Churchill wasn't exactly an elected politician in the modern sense, not only because the voting system wasn't the same, but also because attitudes to leadership weren't the same.

Leadership was largely regarded as something one acquired through birthright, and the electorate were predominantly deferential.

Combine that with the highly controlled media, and you basically had a ruling class who came under no scrutiny at all.

If he'd have been here today, he wouldn't have made it anywhere near parliament, because the population wouldn't let him.

[El Pibe]

I'm pretty sure he was an elected politician, he wasn't an elected prime minister in the sense we tend to go about it today.

Given the choice of course after the war he was booted out by the public.

[Louisa]

Love her or hate het the conviction of her belief in what she stood for has to be admired. Back in the 1970s/80s we had a clear dividing line between left and right. What we have now is this centred politics where politicians want to 'out centre' their rivals. It's pathetic, and it's a dumming down of the democratic process, lead primarily, by two main political parties who want to keep the status quo. Boring!

Louisa.

[malumbu]

Ding dong the witch is dead, which old witch, the witch is dead

ding dong the wicked witch is dead.

[Mike Dodd]

what a great day she has finally gone hope she suffered as much as my family did the f???ing cow

[Vicanna]

I really pity the victim mentality fostered by some, if not all, of Mrs. Thatcher's detractors.

[Huguenot]

Sorry EP, I should have explained myself - I think Churchill was first elected in 1900.

I think up until 1918 only about half of men (those wealthy enough) and no women could vote. Women under 30 still couldn't vote until 1928.

By then Chruchill was 54 had been in parliament for 28 years.

So he didn't build his career by appealing to the electorate like today's politicians have to - even the deference given to the aristocracy at the time may not have appointed him had there been universal suffrage.

[kristymac1]

Louisa Wrote:

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> Love her or hate het the conviction of her belief

> in what she stood for has to be admired. Back in

> the 1970s/80s we had a clear dividing line between

> left and right. What we have now is this centred

> politics where politicians want to 'out centre'

> their rivals. It's pathetic, and it's a dumming

> down of the democratic process, lead primarily, by

> two main political parties who want to keep the

> status quo. Boring!

> Louisa.

I've never understood the argument about conviction in ones belief to be admired. I can think of a number of historical figures who had total conviction in their own beliefs but their actions based on those beliefs we're anything but admirable......