Megan?s & Pret a Manger cashless!

[sweetgirl]

Is it only me who has an issue with cashless stores?

I?ve noticed the two new shops above state they are cashless, which obviously means I can?t spend my cash in there!

I?m very much against this cashless society we are heading into.

I will definitely not be entering either of those stores!

I?m well aware this is the future but I do not agree with it.

Once the notes disappear we?ll have no idea what & where we are spending!

People are being overcharged & not realising it.

We are doomed!

People need to wake up & see where this is all going. In the long term it will not be beneficial for most of us & our offspring.

[teddyboy23]

If your going to run a business your there to make money.why refuse cash .it cost you more and the business more when using a card .with coffees teas at between ?2 ?4 apop how much more could you make in a year

[JohnL]

many pubs seem to be now too.

I guess they have run a business plan on going cashless ?

[TheCat]

When even things like Ice Cream Vans and drug dealers (so im told) use contactless/bank transfers thee days, there would seemingly be little point raging against the trend....

[Spartacus]

The problem is that for a business, it costs time (and money) to count up cash, cash can go missing and then the banks charge to deposit or withdraw cash whereas cardless makes it easier to manage hidden costs plus less chance of accepting a dodgy note.

It's why buses went cashless

However, it does stop you wandering out with a fiver in your pocket and getting an incidental coffee or cake as you pass so whilst I see why businesses do it, I do belive they turn many away who would have spent cash with them.

Now I guess I need to put a for sale post up for near perfect ?20 printing plates🤔

[teddyboy23]

That would be a sight all the kids pulling out cards for a 99 icecream 😁

[teddyboy23]

Spartacus I've got one to sell .card only

[Sephiroth]

"cash" isn't some god-given, natural force

It's only been around, relatively speaking over history of time, for a short time

It was better than barter - and I do understand that some older people just don't get cashless. But so few actual customers now bother with cash it's just uneconomic to deal with

I'm no spring chicken but not dealing with cash has been a joy. Never having to queue to take cash out? Or worry about bandits looking for my PIN/distraction

[Igor]

Only keep a small amount of cash now. Even buskers have gone cashless. Downside is my bank statements now go to a dozen pages. Although as they are paperless examine them less than a fe years ago.

More bothered about tillless supermarkets, only come across Aldi in Greenwich to date

[jazzer]

You can add Ayres in Nunhead to the list, who have been cashless since Covid and to be honest it makes no difference to me paying by card.

You can check what you are spending by looking at what the cost of items are on your receipt. Or as in the bakers the spiked price tag in the bread at the front of the shelf.

[hammerman]

sweetgirl Wrote:

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> Is it only me who has an issue with cashless

> stores?

>

> I?ve noticed the two new shops above state they

> are cashless, which obviously means I can?t spend

> my cash in there!

> I?m very much against this cashless society we are

> heading into.

> I will definitely not be entering either of those

> stores!

>

> I?m well aware this is the future but I do not

> agree with it.

> Once the notes disappear we?ll have no idea what &

> where we are spending!

> People are being overcharged & not realising it.

> We are doomed!

>

> People need to wake up & see where this is all

> going. In the long term it will not be beneficial

> for most of us & our offspring.

Thanks for posting this sweetgirl! This is just absurd and these companies have just opened up their shops in East Dulwich (Pret and now Megans along Lordship Lane). Megans opened up recently in Dulwich Village and I was thinking of trying it out with a big family occasion but won't now.

[hammerman]

jazzer Wrote:

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> You can add Ayres in Nunhead to the list, who have

> been cashless since Covid and to be honest it

> makes no difference to me paying by card.

>

> You can check what you are spending by looking at

> what the cost of items are on your receipt. Or as

> in the bakers the spiked price tag in the bread at

> the front of the shelf.

Their price rises are because of going cashless!

[jazzer]

hammerman Wrote:

>

> Their price rises are because of going cashless!

What proof do you have or can you evidence your statement?

[hammerman]

It's not rocket science!

[jazzer]

So again where is your evidence?

[hammerman]

Erm I'm not in court here am I?

Just accept that cash is king.

[alex_b]

teddyboy23 Wrote:

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> If your going to run a business your there to make

> money.why refuse cash .it cost you more and the

> business more when using a card .with coffees teas

> at between ?2 ?4 apop how much more could you

> make in a year

There?s a cost to banking cash and in maintaining a float. There?s also the time and risk associated with properly accounting for the cash each day, checking your staff take the right amount, give the right change, don?t accept fake notes.

Cash is not obviously cheaper than card, otherwise businesses wouldn?t be stopping accepting it.

[legalalien]

This is worth a read. Complete phase out of cash is a serious issue for victims of domestic abuse.

https://www.refuge.org.uk/refuge-call-make-cash-priority-queens-speech/

Moving to cash free is also a great opportunity to allow the government to control how eg welfare payments are spent. See this trial in Australia (very targeted but could easily be the thin end of the wedge).

https://www.dss.gov.au/families-and-children/programmes-services/welfare-conditionality/cashless-debit-card-overview

I?m not sure that entirely cash free is the way to go...

[Spartacus]

If you believe in privacy, then going cashless potentially means that a number of organisations, including your bank, will know every item you purchase and your lifestyle.

Imagine a dystopia future (some would say we're there already) where every donut or pint of beer you purchase is shared with your health care insurance provider or the NHS and your lifestyle choices then effect the treatments you receive (extreme I know But who knew how much data facebook for example shared about us)

Or if you regularly buy certain products, which are tracked by using your card rather than cash, how much more targeting marketing companies can aim at you.

Cash really does allow you to have the illusion of controlling your data.

[ed_pete]

Maybe less so in shops but bear in mind that the some of the older generation will feel excluded from a cashless society. Pete Paphides wrote a thread on Twitter this week about how his father was unable to pay to park his car because the parking meter required you to pay via an App. His father was on his way to a memorial service and couldn't pay. He sadly died shortly after and PP has been left with explaining to the debt collection agency that the person they fined won't be paying.

[legalalien]

oddly enough, healthcare / obesity/ controlling benefits spending on junk food was what I was thinking about when reading the Australia thing - as a natural next step from gambling/ alcohol / smoking... I'm sure someone has thought of it already and trying to work out how it can be made politically palatable!

[TheCat]

legalalien Wrote:

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> This is worth a read. Complete phase out of cash

> is a serious issue for victims of domestic abuse.

>

> https://www.refuge.org.uk/refuge-call-make-cash-pr

> iority-queens-speech/

>

> Moving to cash free is also a great opportunity to

> allow the government to control how eg welfare

> payments are spent. See this trial in Australia

> (very targeted but could easily be the thin end of

> the wedge).

>

> https://www.dss.gov.au/families-and-children/progr

> ammes-services/welfare-conditionality/cashless-deb

> it-card-overview

>

> I?m not sure that entirely cash free is the way to

> go...

Far out. The aussie nanny state strikes again.....

I remember when I first came to the UK, and was amazed to see people could drink booze openly in a public place (a train, the park, the street corner), and booze was able to be freely bought at most corner shops and supermarkets...not hived away in a specific 'liquir store'/Bottlo....now it seems ridiculous to think that people shouldnt be able to do that....if it can be controlled some level of aussie government (local, state or federal) will find a way to control it....

[teddyboy23]

During full lockdown pubs restaurants retail hairdressers were all going bust because of no punters or income coming in people lost their jobs houses .so now as things slowly return to normal .some of these businesses are now refusing to take money which could go towards rents rates staff wages energy costs stock .

[JohnL]

Can the government do anything anyway - they say they will support cash but have not done anything to change the current trend.

Has the train already left the station ?

[JohnL]

Britcoin - No

https://www.bankofengland.co.uk/research/digital-currencies