Be aware! Townley Road "Penalty fine" on bank holiday

[RenatoMattos]

I've been fined twice for driving on Townley Road, once on 15 and again on 18 April'2022 between 8:00 - 9:00AM.

There is a sign for Monday to Friday between 8:00 - 9:00 AM but nothing about "bank holiday".

We have other bank holidays approaching so be aware!

[ED - NAGAIUTB]

Worth a try to appeal against - I've managed to get 2 tickets overturned recently. Its a bit pot luck and will be turned down on first appeal by default.

I'm in favour of School Streets as a whole, but them being during holidays etc are just taking the mick.

[hammerman]

Townley Road used to be a normal road to drive along a couple of years ago. During the lockdown Labour controlled Southwark decided to change this and other roads in the area and now they are roping in millions of pounds in fines even on Bank Holidays!

It's a disgraceful situation and Labour will hopefully pay for it at the next local elections.

[mrwb]

Yes it's Monday to Friday regardless of bank holiday or anything else!

More ? on to the ?7m+ pile of fines...

Chances of the council using that ?7m to reduce all our council tax?

[Angelina]

do you really think another council (non Labour) will drop this source of funding and make it easier to drive around?

[ianr]

> Yes it's Monday to Friday regardless

> of bank holiday or anything else!

The only judgment I've found supports that view on bank holidays when the relevant Order is silent on the point:

5. In my opinion the argument put forward on this review

by the Council that where no exemption is expressed in the

Order then no exemption can be inferred to apply to Good

Friday is a compelling one. I am of the opinion that the

Order does apply on Good Friday. The only days on which

the prescribed hours do not apply are Sundays. They appear

on the face of the order to apply on all other days including

bank holidays and other public holidays.

Zammit v London Borough of Greenwich

Date:23 July 1997

https://www.londontribunals.gov.uk/sites/default/files/keycases/ZAM250.pdf

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RenatoMattos Wrote:

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> I've been fined twice for driving on Townley Road,

> once on 15 and again on 18 April'2022 between 8:00

> - 9:00AM.

>

> There is a sign for Monday to Friday between 8:00

> - 9:00 AM but nothing about "bank holiday".

>

> We have other bank holidays approaching so be

> aware!

Sign seems perfectly clear to me, so what's the problem exactly?

[ianr]

> Sign seems perfectly clear to me,

> so what's the problem exactly?

I assume the problem perceived by the OP was that some people may assume that the sign doesn't apply on bank holidays; just as some don't realise that the sign is a prohibition, or one that that applies to their class of vehicle. Which is a real problem, if you think it's regrettable for people to unknowingly and unnecessarily commit themselves to a ?65 debt for just the benefit of passing the sign.

[Jess_mw]

Sigh. I wish I'd seen this before getting caught on the next bank holiday Monday! I find it to be very confusingly placed signage if not familiar with the specific rules and location in advance... vey harsh also for those struggling with bills at the moment.

[Sit Ubu Sit]

Try to appeal it if you can. I was caught a few months back, appealed, no one bothered to reply on the councils end and I got away with it.

The signage on Townley Road is pretty poor.

[oimissus]

Don't the vast majority of rules like this apply on bank holidays? Eg, you can park on yellow lines on a Sunday but not a bank holiday.

[mrwb]

Presumably the LTNs will rake the cash in today and tomorrow!?

[Dogkennelhillbilly]

Only if drivers don't pay attention while they're driving.